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Originally Posted by Bigkarch

Drol is not necessarily better or worse than dbol. MG per mg dbol is a tad more potent, I would not do 150 mg of dbol, but have done so with drol. Both are good for mass and water gains. I dont like the sides from drol so I use dbol.

So I like the test/tren/dbol myself. This is the exact same cycle I am planning in about two to three weeks. I will be running test at 600-800 mg EW, 90 mg of home brew tren ED and 40 mg of dbol ED for 4 weeks. test for 16 weeks, tren for 8 weeks and dbol as stated 4 weeks.

For you 500 mg of test ew with 50-75 mg of tren ED and 40 mg of dbol ED is sufficient for what you want. The next step is your diet and training. that is a whole another world along with antie's and pct

I agree with Bigkarch on this one