Well, well, well. Hello Doctor, question for you, is there anyone out there besides your minions who you don't believe to be a charlatan? You know what Swale, Hooker's right you have yet to disprove any of his work by the use of references or citations. Yet everytime he asks you to do so you just scream louder and say nastier things. This sir is not the behavior of someone who is a self-annointed "leader" of all things male. Gimme' a break.
I have been surfing around the internet to check up on you and this sort of behavior certainly isn't the first time it's reared it's ugly head. You have a bad habit of calling people out on their ideas and then are either unable or unwilling to prove your claims. So what if all the trials were done on women, if that's the only literature out there on the subject what else is he suppose to cite? He then tells you that his real-world experience has been on men which you ignore and attack his credibility.
You're a coward! Plain and simple but then, most bullies are. I feel some time in your recent path you went off the deep end emotionally and this thread is a very true indication of your serious condition. I truly believe you could benefit from a little time on the couch. Dr. Marsh is quite competent and with you having worked at Ingham you may even know her.
Ciobl why don't you just go ahead and pipe down. You're like an annoying little gnat that just wont stop buzzing by your ear. You obviously want people to think you're smart which proves the use of $5 words in your first few posts. Then when you start to get really excited your true character comes out and you start name calling, using poor sentence structure and the value of the verbiage being used plummets. Stop swinging from the nice physician's nuts and go out and find yourself a girlfriend.
In summation, I don't feel either one of you two (Swale and Hooker) are onto anything revolutionary in anyway. You both take protocols that have been in use for many years in the BB world and to a lesser degree in medicine and simply change some values here, drop and add a pharma there and presto! you now have something that's been done a million anyway but you're marketing it like you had Christ himself come to you in a dream and bestow it upon you. Knock it off gentlemen neither of you is particularly bright, just do what you do and make money at it.--That's that!
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