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Originally Posted by DavidZ Lab1
July 27, 2002 (before L-Arginine)
HCG 310 IU 2x/wk
Indolplex/DIM 34 mg/day (about one quarter of a 120 mg tablet)
Selegiline 2.5 mg/night
L-Arginine none
T 889 (260-1000)
Free T 23.9 (10-27)
E2 30 (<50)
Lab2
August 24, 2002 (after 4 weeks of L-Arginine)
HCG 310 IU 2x/week
Indolplex/DIM 32 mg/day
Selegiline 2.5 mg/night
L-Arginine 1500 mg/week
T 1202 (260-1000)
Free T 35.7 (10-27)
E2 71 (<50)
Lab3
October 5, 2002 (after 10 weeks of L-Arginine)
HCG 140 IU 2x/week
Indolplex/DIM 32 mg/day
Selegiline 2.5 mg/night
L-Arginine 1500 mg/week
T 534 (260-1000)
Free T 10.6 (10-27)
E2 38 (<50)
Lab4
November 2, 2002 (after 14 weeks of L-Arginine)
HCG 140 IU 2x/week
Indolplex/DIM 39 mg/day
Selegiline 2.5 mg/night
L-Arginine 1500 mg/week
T 570 (260-1000)
Free T 12.3 (10-27)
E2 59 (<50) |
David,
These labs above are very interesting. Especially Lab2 that shows an increase in Total T.
I'm going to give my guess at why the numbers worked out that way.
Lab2 appears to be accurate because the increase in Total T is confirmed by the corresponding increase in E2. The increase in E2 is quite large because this is "excess" T which is above the range, which will more readily convert to E.
Lab3 and lab4 show a higher proportion of E to T. I wouldn't place too much emphasis on this because when T levels are not optimal, then higher E2 can occur. Higher T levels, within the normal range, actually cause lower E2 levels to occur.
"As
testosterone levels sink in the male body, the aromatization of
testosterone into estrogen increases, which further lowers testosterone" page. 79 "The Life Extension Revolution" - Dr. Philip Miller and the Life Extension Foundation.
"High levels of testosterone actually depress production of SHBG". page 53 "The Testosterone Syndrome" - by Dr. Eugene Shippen.
So, it is not really the L-Arginine that caused more aromatization, but the level of testosterone at various times - either too high, or not high enough.