when using good quality
var 30mg/day is more than enough. 5mg is enough for good strength in a ver short amount of time mostly due to increase of phosphacreatine in muscle cell but
var will keep you lean even when cheating and quality muscle gain which comes more with doses above 15mg/day . 30mg of good
var and you see good gains for 1st cycle without a doubt..
var helped me stay lean after
tren cycles when eating like shit and no workouts .. I would have put on weight around abs fast after stopping
tren if not for
var... very good drug especially when getting great quality