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Old 10-09-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Proviron and PCT

Interesting numbers but still do not support the use of proviron except as anecdotal information. Anecdotes are all over websites and provide legitimation for many to take certain drugs. But this is no way to treat or take medications, treatments, surgery, etc.

Regarding your lab work, a few corrections are necessary on your testosterone estimates. The numbers cited appear to be in the international standard of nM/L. The conversion from nM/L to ng/dL is to divide by 0.0347 or multiply by 28.843. The usual normal range for testosterone levels in serum samples is 8–35 nM/L (225–1000 ng/dL) but is determined by the lab performing the assay.

A total testosterone of 8.5 is the equivalent of ~245 ng/dL, not 140 (underestimate); a total testosterone of 16 is the equivalent of ~460 ng/dL (overestimate). In other words, had you checked to ensure the conversion was consistent; the error would have become obvious. There is no testosterone level for 4 weeks after PCT? The estrogen level is significantly less 4 weeks after PCT than prior to PCT?

Could be nothing. Could be something.

Finally, you indirectly include information that makes your case very different. Dostinex is a medication for hyperprolactinemia. This is a significant contributor to all of the symptoms of hypogonadism, etc., etc. Your medical case is anything but typical.

Thank you.



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Originally Posted by armillas23es View Post
Hello

I tried Proviron during PCT about 2 years ago, my PCT was the standard Clomid and Novaldex.
it looked like this:

Week 1: 100mg Clomid, 20mg Novaldex, 75mg Proviron
Week 2: 50mg Clomid , 20mg Novaldex, 50mg Proviron
Week 3: 50mg Clomid , 20mg Novaldex, 50mg Proviron
Week 4: 25mg Clomid , 10mg novaldex, 25mg Proviron
Week 5: 10mg novaldex
Then OFF for 3 months

the really cool thing is that i have 3 sets of complete bloodwork, one before starting PCT, showing following levels:

Total Testosterone:8.5 ( Its like 140 on US Scale)
Bioavailable Testosterone: 3.2
FSH: 0.6
LH: 0.8
Estrogen: 93
Prolactin: Not Detectable ( Due to Dostinex Use )

Then I have the bloodwork that i took during PCT, to make it simple:
FSH: 4.3
LH: 7.2
Total Test: 16 ( sort of 620 on your scale)
Bioavailable Test: 6.5

And finally 4 weeks after PCT:
FSH: 2.5
LH: 4.6
Estrogen: 23

What i have to report during my PCT: I didnt get any acne this time, no mood swings, sex drive was a little higher than with just nolva and clomid, but not much, ejaculation volume was high, i felt a lot more energetic, and lost very little gains. By the way on the bloodwork that i took during PCT, clomid seem really toxic to the liver with increases in liver values.

Anyway, i hope this helps, to be honest i felt a lot better when adding the proviron during PCT.
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