[bigbench]

Well I agree with you guys, but you cant always say that you can never go past 30 degrees. Some peoples frame, muscle size, etc.. can determine which angle to best hit the upper pecs. Another factor that some must need to consider, is ones technique. Some people have a natural arc in their back when the press, if it is too much of an arc, and the bench is set at 30 degrees, then in actuality, the chest is more at a 10-15 degree angle which does not place a lot of emphasis on the upper pec. For those individuals, you can go up to as much as 45degrees and it will actually be optimal for that person