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Originally Posted by hackskii  Could be, but nolva is a mixed agonist and antagonist to estrogen.
I completely understand PCT and to be honest one does not go into PCT with no testicular function. The whole point in PCT is to bring the HPTA back online. Nuts take the longest so
HCG would be used here, the nolva and clomid would be used to avoid leydig cell desentization, and the sides from the aromitization of HCG. |
Yeah, yeah, but I was just talking about when one is on low drive from low
testosterone levels, not just "before PCT". I've taken tamoxifen between cycles after PCT when I've felt a little listless & it has helped considerably after a few days, so I can then ease back off. After all tamox citrate is an estrogen blocker that can increase the release of luteinizing hormone from the pituitary gland and subsequent
testosterone synthesis.
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Originally Posted by hackskii I undestand your point, nolva does very little for morning wood for me, now clomid on the other hand does help that.
But remember everyone is diffrent, some dudes cant take clomid as they feel like women, for me I dont get this problem but I do get tracers. |
Clomid also raises
test levels but it takes more of it and, yes, there are unpleasant hot-flash-like sides for many, me included.
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Originally Posted by hackskii One day on nolva wont raise test levels with any significance, short term use wont either. |
Ah, Hacksky, always so edgy, especially when you're not certain of your facts: William Llewellyn writes: "Nolvadex, used for 10 days at a dosage of 20mg daily, increased serum testosterone levels to 142% of baseline." Then he goes on to compare
nolvadex favourably with clomid. See
Clomid, Nolvadex, and Testosterone Stimulation. I'd say 142% could be "significant".
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