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Old 12-15-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Problem with high test?

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Originally Posted by EIC View Post
First off, that cannot be true. If so, then lab results for guys on TRT would be wildly inaccurate unless tested at the same time of day each and every time.

When someone would ask, "What's your TT?" You'd have to respond, "What time are we talking?" Ridiculous. I'm willing to grant you that T levels are highest at one point (i.e., early morning) and begin drop off thereafter, but I doubt seriously that you'd see a 100 pt swing in an hour's time.* The word that popped into my head when I saw that graphic is "random," meaning that there seemed to be no rhyme or reason for those changes. I don't believe it.

Nevertheless, I think Nemisis was asking for figures for a practical maximum for natural testosterone levels. For example, evidence of all natural guys going as high as 1,500 ng/dl.

* This assumes we're talking about day to day figures. I'm sure a dude's T could drop by a 100 or more point the instant he learned, for example, that he or his wife/child/parent had cancer.
You are trying to compare TRT to NATURAL testosterone production. There is no comparison. This chart can be an accurate depiction of NATURAL production, not injecting yourself with esterfied testosterone twice a week. Natural production is VERY pulsitile so a single blood draw is of much less value than if one was on TRT. NATURAL production of testosterone tends to be highest in the morning and fall gradually through the day which is what this graph is showing. If there was a trendline drawn through the graph you would see it better.

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