Given enough time you should be able to cut to near 205lbs without
clen. Taking UG
clen and other stuff if you are subject to drug testing is danergous. You should be able to cut 15-20lbs in water by careful planning and maybe an intestibne cleanse. I'd suggest you should be no more than 220 lbs before you try to make weight. Good cardio training and diet manipulation will get you down to this without taking this shit. If you have to take a fight on short notice using
clen to get you down to weight may screw your conditioning for the fight. Having said all of that I have never found
clen to be that great... quality and cleanliness of product, like everything UG, is always suspect.