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Originally Posted by Fraggle  Dennis,
During the 'stasis' of 100mg/week you use nothing other then testosterone. I would do the stasis for four (4) weeks, followed by four (4) to six (6) weeks of continually lower doses of testosterone. If you want to add Tamoxifene and/or hCG do it during this period. Research studies indicate that there is virtually no suppression of the HPTA at doses around 25mg/week. Easing yourself down towards this dose allows your body to play catch-up without depriving it of the necessary hormones. Clomiphene, Tamoxifene and hCG will all cause natural production to surge as well and can allow higher effective doses of testosterone without suppression. Of course, this occurs with the cost of associated side effects. The two most common methods of reintroducing endogenous production of intratesticular testosterone for fertility purposes use Clomiphene or hCG, introduced at around six (6) weeks after the cessation of androgen therapy.
My personal preference would be to do a four (4) week stasis, followed by six (6) weeks of reducing testosterone and introducing hCG at 1000IU three (3) x week for three (3) weeks starting in the last week of testosterone and extending for two (2) weeks after ceasing the androgen. This should bring you online painlessly and with the least amount of unwanted side effects. Don't use the hCG until your exogenous test dose is very low, otherwise you are simply reintroducing a highly anabolic environment with artificially inflated testosterone levels.
Can you continue to post your experiences with the taper for others, particularly emotion/physical changes or lack thereof.
Thanks much and good luck,
Fraggle |
Fraggle, I just wanted to say that I love your thoughts on tapering and support your opinion and willingness to go against the standard PCT that everyone and their grandmother says you have to do.
I do however fail to understand your logic with your suggestion of when to use HCG. If hcg is capable of raising endogenous testosterone levels, then your body's own LH would do so the same. I understand the use of HCG while exogenous levels are high, but never could get why so many suggest using it as some sort of PCT when we are trying to get our bodies to reach homeostatis and would do so without external suppression? You obviously are a smart guy and could maybe feel me in on the rational or maybe we're both right somehow.