Date: 02/06/03 04:10 PM
Author: AnimalMass
Subject: RE: RE: ..
God, I've missed discussions like this.
Both Freddy and Hogg make valid points. I'm not sure there is a
right answer on whether waste products/ lactic acid contributes
to the soreness, or whether it is just microtrauma - I tend to
think that one or both may be present.
I can only fall back on previous ecperience here, though,
because as Hogg noted, no one really knows for sure what is
causing DOMS. What I do know, is that after doing HST, I was
sore as hell from what had to be lactic acid, and not as much
microtrauma, as I was doing a much, much heavier, powerlifting
routine prior to doing the HST, and rarely went above 3reps on
anything - so when I went to 15 reps on everything - it damn
near killed me - including several nasty lactic acid vomiting
sessions.
Now, I've been back at Powerlifting for two years, and rarely
experience true soreness. - I get some minor soreness almost
everyday, but not the kind where I can't walk, like I used to
have with bodybuilding routines.
So the question may also be, does extreme high weight cause
microtrauma as much as higer reps? I don't think so. I mean, why
doesn't doing 8 sets of 2 reps of squats at around 750 pounds at
the top make me sore as hell the next day? But if I throw on 315
and hit 15 reps, I probably couldn't walk. The only thing I can
think of, is the continual heavy contraction of the muscle under
force (even at under 50% 1RM) causes more microtrauma than just
several reps at a much higher weight (even 90+% of 1rm). -
Something to be debated for sure.
As far as working out while sore - I tend to lean more towards
Freddy here, although Hogg makes valid points...I think Hogg is
referring more towards intense DOMS - DOMS that would realy only
be felt by Bodybuilders who kill their muscles once per week or
so. Strength athletes should rarely, if ever, feel this
intensity of DOMS - I never do - (except when I just injected
about 4ccs of IP Alcohal in my quad - lol). If a bodybuilder was
attempting to work out in a dual factor theory kind of way, like
HST, he shouldn't experience extreme DOMS. If he did, the
intensity is probably too high, and yes, he should take his next
workout off.
However, when experiencing a smaller amount of DOMS due most
likely to microtrauma, (like myself and other strength althletes
experience on an almost daily basis), I think it is beneficial
to continue to work out under the set periodization as per dual
factor theory. Freddy pointed out, that not to work out, will
lead to a lowering a GPP, (although not by just skipping one
workout - but continually if this is done - obviously GPP won't
increase)
Aditionally, I feel it is beneficial to incorporate Active
Release Training is areas where some mild microtrauma has
occured. By working the muscle/s that are mildly sore with
approximately <20% 1RM, and lots of reps, one can flood the area
with blood and the area miraculously heals faster. Hot/ Cold
showers, massaging of the area, dixie cup massages to dig out
scar tissue (which is probably form some form of macrotrauma
awhile back), are all beneficial in combating and living with
DOMS, and ensuring that one is less likely to experience any
severe injury or macrotrauma.
AnimalMass
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