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Old 10-19-2005, 01:38 PM
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Just Say "Yes" to Steroids by Sidney Gendin, PhD

When it comes to the use of steroids for such benign purposes as looking and feeling better, I hardly need to try to persuade readers of this journal that not only is the practice innocent but that it ought to be encouraged. The evidence is in and it is complete: the dangers of steroid use are as exaggerated as is the rumor that cigarette smoking is less hazardous to your health than a shot of Deca. Can steroids ever do you harm? This question is like "Can eating cheese cake do you harm?" Yes, of course, but I won't insult your intelligence by explaining how you can "abuse" cheese cake. You can also kill yourself with Vitamin A.

Moreover, I don't give a damn whether steroids are harmful...

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I've read that before. It's an excellent article.
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Interesting article.
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"Moreover, I don't give a damn whether steroids are harmful. Why should physicians, governments and Nazi-like dictators calling themselves "commissioners" care if I abuse my body? I don't care if they abuse theirs. The only harms that should be regulated are the harms we do to others."

How utterly short sighted...
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"Moreover, I don't give a damn whether steroids are harmful. Why should physicians, governments and Nazi-like dictators calling themselves "commissioners" care if I abuse my body? I don't care if they abuse theirs. The only harms that should be regulated are the harms we do to others."

How utterly short sighted...
They dont want you to be better.
Who is easier to control.
a country of lazy, fat, uneducated sheep OR
one that is physically fit, strong ,educated, independent thinking people.................11
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They dont want you to be better.
Who is easier to control.
a country of lazy, fat, uneducated sheep OR
one that is physically fit, strong ,educated, independent thinking people.................11
Bumpin that remark!!

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"Moreover, I don't give a damn whether steroids are harmful. Why should physicians, governments and Nazi-like dictators calling themselves "commissioners" care if I abuse my body? I don't care if they abuse theirs. The only harms that should be regulated are the harms we do to others."

How utterly short sighted...
Short sighted, yes. But there is a lot of truth in it. Our rights to live our lives the way we choose is in fact taken away by others that don't really know you. If I want to do something to myself; use steroids, get a tattoo, destroy my own car, whatever - I should always have the right to do so, when it doesn't involve others.
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if anybody cared about our health or our livers, they would first start with alcohol. BTW, pinch any of the many birth control inserts in the PDR. Approx 10-12 pages. The only drugs with longer warnings, precautions and adverse effects are oncology chemo drugs. Anadrol, despite its peliosis hepatitis warning, is only about 3-4 pages...standard fare for most meds.

But Alcohol, thrugh direct and indirect costs (health care, DUI, crime, victimization costs, damage to property and person) is in the billions to the US each year.

However, the law is the law and science plays no role in drug scheduling (C1-C-IV).
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if anybody cared about our health or our livers, they would first start with alcohol. BTW, pinch any of the many birth control inserts in the PDR. Approx 10-12 pages. The only drugs with longer warnings, precautions and adverse effects are oncology chemo drugs. Anadrol, despite its peliosis hepatitis warning, is only about 3-4 pages...standard fare for most meds.

But Alcohol, thrugh direct and indirect costs (health care, DUI, crime, victimization costs, damage to property and person) is in the billions to the US each year.

However, the law is the law and science plays no role in drug scheduling (C1-C-IV).
Thats the problem, we're a country of 300 million people yet we ALLOW a few dozen people to tell us how to live, we bitch about it but we never do anything about it and they continue to pile up more "laws" to better our lives. when people start standing up for ourselves and to our (elected) leaders then things will change, I mean there just people like you and me not Kings and Gods. we put then there..........................11
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"Moreover, I don't give a damn whether steroids are harmful. Why should physicians, governments and Nazi-like dictators calling themselves "commissioners" care if I abuse my body? I don't care if they abuse theirs. The only harms that should be regulated are the harms we do to others."

How utterly short sighted...
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Thats the problem, we're a country of 300 million people yet we ALLOW a few dozen people to tell us how to live, we bitch about it but we never do anything about it and they continue to pile up more "laws" to better our lives. when people start standing up for ourselves and to our (elected) leaders then things will change, I mean there just people like you and me not Kings and Gods. we put then there..........................11
thats very true
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I've become pretty skeptical of the political system in the last few years. The U.S. seems less and less like a democracy (or even a republic) these days. The 2000 election was the first big eye-opener for me. So many of our laws seem illogical; less about the common good and more about maintaining control. I think the guy who called this a 'witch hunt' is right. It's another attempt by the creeps who are doing such a poor job managing the country to focus public and media attention on other issues and away from their failures as leaders.
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I'm in my later 50s and am absolutely astounded by the government's criminalization of steroid use in this country. It is very sad to see their willing accomplices in the media, usually young folks who've gone through the liberalized education camps that pass for institutions of higher learning, cheer them on.

For those of you who aren't old enough to remember what this country was like prior to its lockdown, it was a beautiful place (aside from legalized racial discrimination), full of personal liberty.

But today we have the eco-nazis, the food-nazis, and the drug-nazis running rampant through our legislatures, executive and judicial branches, and of course the media.

My body does not now---nor has it ever---naturally produced cocaine, meth, alcohol or nicotine. My body does and has, however, naturally produced testosterone. But for some unknown reason, the "authorities" have deemed it not in the public interest for me to enjoy all the benefits of youthful testosterone levels now that I am 30 years older. Why is that?

Someone here mentioned that it is easier to control the docile and feeble than it is the strong and virile. Probably true. But what is really dangerous is the strong and virile with 50 years of life experience. Folks like me who've been mugged by reality, and can smell political BS from a mile away.

So what's the solution? Well I think that we have to connect steroid use with solving social, political and economic problems.
And in order to do this, we have to have a horse to ride that is strong and powerful and that gets the attention of the political and media classes. You see, trying to talk to these people about how safe steroid use really is, is like trying to talk to a brick wall. You will get nowhere because their minds and emotions are already made up on the subject, and their intellects are in lockdown mode, because the brainwashing they've experienced has gone deep into the mental and emotional cores. The dominant classes in this country think that they have solved a big problem or have it under control by their Captain Ahab-like pursuit of the Great White Whale (anabolic steroids).

The solution, as I see it, is to displace these misinformed notions from where they presently internalized, and replace them with more emotionally charged notions that can outcompete the false but strongly held steroid-are-evil beliefs. And the way to do this is to show that steroid use can solve bigger, more expensive and more emotionally charged problems.

And that brings us to the how-to-do-it part of this piece. Quite simply, It gets done by showing that anabolic steroid use can solve a large part of the Social Security and Health Care problems facing this country. Stronger and healthier people can and will work longer. When they work longer, they pay more into the system and draw less out. When they're stronger and healthier, they place fewer demands on scarce and extremely expensive health care resources. These problems/issues dominate the anti-steroid use issues, probably by an order of magnitude. And they are, to a large extent, mutually exclusive. So the dominant issue will always outcompete and displace the subordinate issue in the emotional and intellectual centers of the psyche. We just need to insert it there and let the two issues fight it out. If we can do this successfully, and by that I mean on the national stage, we can win.

The horsemen that we need to enlist to ride these horses on the national stage are the Health and Life insurance industries, Big Business (they have to pay a lot of the freight for the health care system and they don't like it), and AARP. The political elites will get lobbied heavily by these folks, and they will respond.

END OF PART 1.
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Excellent article
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Very good article, thank you for sharing
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