Top Ten Bodybuilders of all time

[dvs33]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

yes,he looked very good,without a doubt,but he was a pussy .. I think Serge use to help Arnold with curling by sitting on the bar

HAHAHA,Arnold was a very intense person in the gym.But I think Serge would leave the pros today for dead with his training.Try doing 20 -30 sets like him of higher reps and 30 odd seconds rest between those sets with 100 odd kg on bent rows,chins,benches etc etc.After 3 -4 sets theyed be gasping for air and rolling around on the floor.Most of them cant pose with out gasping.Remember bodybuilders are weight feelers not weight lifters.Sure if you can lift a ton by all means do it, as long as its controled and you feel the muscle working,and you do try to increase the weight with controled form(progressive resistence)

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by dvs33

HAHAHA,Arnold was a very intense person in the gym.But I think Serge would leave the pros today for dead with his training.Try doing 20 -30 sets like him of higher reps and 30 odd seconds rest between those sets with 100 odd kg on bent rows,chins,benches etc etc.After 3 -4 sets theyed be gasping for air and rolling around on the floor.Most of them cant pose with out gasping.Remember bodybuilders are weight feelers not weight lifters.Sure if you can lift a ton by all means do it, as long as its controled and you feel the muscle working,and you do try to increase the weight with controled form(progressive resistence)

You want grueling workouts,take a look at some HD workouts. sure 20-30 sets with high rep work isn't easy after coming from doing 3-5 sets 5 reps ea set,but high rep work isn't the best for building muscle tissue. Serge probably didn't see a big reason for gaining more muscle mass. He latest programs were basically marathon training programs. That's great for nutrient density and increasing stamina but not the best for muscle mass. he did look good though

[dvs33]

Im a lower set/rep person myself.
But know theres more than one way to skin a cat.Some respond to the higher rep/set like Serge, others to a lower shorter but intense way of Training like myself.But can you imagine the guys of today trying it?It would be funny as hell to watch.I saw a clip of Dexter struggling with 400 pounds for 5 reps on flat bench and afterwards it looked like he was about to curl over.Even stretching was winding him.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by dvs33

Im a lower set/rep person myself.
But know theres more than one way to skin a cat.Some respond to the higher rep/set like Serge, others to a lower shorter but intense way of Training like myself.But can you imagine the guys of today trying it?It would be funny as hell to watch.I saw a clip of Dexter struggling with 400 pounds for 5 reps on flat bench and afterwards it looked like he was about to curl over.Even stretching was winding him.

Serge use to workout with 240 in curls and over 500 bench so you can't compair what he does now to what he did to get where he is now ... Or rather where he was then.. ... Alot of guys do lighter weight high rep work now,but they are already huge. .. High rep work has it's benefits,but IMO not for building muscle tissue .. or not the best for it anyway. ... Isn't Serge from FRANCE?! Fu@@ france and FU@@ Serge .. lol

[dvs33]

Originally Posted by MANWHORE

Serge use to workout with 240 in curls and over 500 bench so you can't compair what he does now to what he did to get where he is now ... Or rather where he was then.. ... Alot of guys do lighter weight high rep work now,but they are already huge. .. High rep work has it's benefits,but IMO not for building muscle tissue .. or not the best for it anyway. ... Isn't Serge from FRANCE?! Fu@@ france and FU@@ Serge .. lol

Serge trained heavy for a while at the start but the majority of his carrer he trained how I said.His joints couldnt take the heavy poundages and he made better gains from the higher rep stuff.I agree with you bro that the heavy stuff works ,well it does for me and you as well,but there are guys out there that respond better to all types of training that you or I wouldnt respond to.I dont give a shit what a book tells you what is best for muscle growth.we are all differant and what works for one doesnt mean it will work for another
And yeah he is a dirty frog

[MANWHORE]

Actually books tell us too many things ... Only very few books that i read in the past actually say heavy weight to be best for hypertrophy,but they never get into the type of Hypertrophy . Some guys say 8 is the magic rep # for Muscle fiber hypertrophy .. some say less and some say more ... IMO heavy weight low reps is the easiest way to build muscle size and strength ... I didn't say the fastest way,just the easiest. I think to get the most muscular development,we need to do a combination of high rep/low rep work .. Muscle fiber types being a major difference with how our muscles respond to different rep schemes,so yes i agree with you ... kind of

[Desibaba]

If you look closely you can that guys today do about 40 percent the amount of training that days did back in the day.Who does 40 sets for chest or back in one session anymore??? Some guys do train quite a bit ie cutler n coleman but its no even close to that these guys did back in the day.

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by Desibaba

If you look closely you can that guys today do about 40 percent the amount of training that days did back in the day.Who does 40 sets for chest or back in one session anymore??? Some guys do train quite a bit ie cutler n coleman but its no even close to that these guys did back in the day.

More drugs now they don't need much work :-) .. I will bet money the newest drugs out on the market are far more important to Pro BBers .. Many BBers actually, then any training methods out there

[litterbox]

Frank Zane will always be my hero



He's so cool.

[PreMier]

Originally Posted by litterbox

Frank Zane will always be my hero



He's so cool.

Frank is top 10 of all time in my book.

[DaneGer]

I think Jay Cutler is the man but Arnold is #1

[Ronin_]

Originally Posted by PreMier

Frank is top 10 of all time in my book.

Zane would be quite impressive if he was natural, but with steroids many many people can acheive that look and symmetry.

Im not saying all - as alot of BBers have shit frames, muscle bellies etc and look like bloated thick bulls, but really zane is nothing special at all.

[ForemanRules]

Originally Posted by Ronin_

Zane would be quite impressive if he was natural, but with steroids many many people can acheive that look and symmetry.

Im not saying all - as alot of BBers have shit frames, muscle bellies etc and look like bloated thick bulls, but really zane is nothing special at all.

Good enough to win the Mr O 3x

[asapnutrition1]

1.Arnold
2.Sergio Oliva
3.Frank Zane
4.Flex Wheeler
5.Ronnie Coleman
6.Robbie Robinson
7.Chris Cormier
8.Lee Priest
9.Kevin Leverone
10.Quincy Taylor

[Grizzly]

I'm a big Dorian Yates fan. I think he's the best of any BB in the last 20 years.