Any ANABOLIC Christians

[role model]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

1. Why would jesus send a baby who's ill into the world?
2. Millions upon millions of babies die at birth or sooner, what about them? You guys didn't pray hard enough? What about all the millions of people who actually die of cancer or worse? More die then are crued... is jesus slacking?

In the oldest book in the Bible, Job:
We see in the life of Job that Satan is the one who put sickness and disease on Job.
Satan went to God and said "stop protecting him and I will turn him away from you, just watch me." God agreed; So Satan killed his family, wiped out his finances and brought all kinds of trouble and heartache into Job’s life, soars, sickness, disease. Satan is the one who instigated the whole thing. God was bragging on Job that he wouldn't turn his back on Him, and he never did.

While Satan was accusing him and saying look what God is doing to you (Job 1-2), trying to make him turn away from God. Job never lost his faith and after a while God gave it all back to Job ten fold.

Authority was given to Satan by Adam and Eve’s sin, that brought the sickness into the world. It wont go away either until after the second coming. Then the Lords 1000 year rein will over the earth. After that, Satin will be set free again for a short time then put away forever..

God rewards obedience, something you have zero of.

[prodigy06]

Originally Posted by role model

In the oldest book in the Bible, Job:
We see in the life of Job that Satan is the one who put sickness and disease on Job.
Satan went to God and said "stop protecting him and I will turn him away from you, just watch me." God agreed; So Satan killed his family, wiped out his finances and brought all kinds of trouble and heartache into Job’s life, soars, sickness, disease. Satan is the one who instigated the whole thing. God was bragging on Job that he wouldn't turn his back on Him, and he never did.

While Satan was accusing him and saying look what God is doing to you (Job 1-2), trying to make him turn away from God. Job never lost his faith and after a while God gave it all back to Job ten fold.

Authority was given to Satan by Adam and Eve’s sin, that brought the sickness into the world. It wont go away either until after the second coming. Then the Lords 1000 year rein will over the earth. After that, Satin will be set free again for a short time then put away forever..

God rewards obedience, something you have zero of.

So god plays games with satan that involve killing people? Glad men were just created to be pawns.
And still your little mythology does not explain the ones who never get rewarded for their pain and lose, and die with or live horrible lives. And further more does not explain why those with no belief get rewarded. And even one step further why those uncapable of showing your god praise, or even grasping the concept of god, never get rewarded (i.e. servely retarded people, people in different cultures who are suffering who don't even know of jesus, etc...).
I have obedience to my culture and blood, not your umbrella religion.

[role model]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

So god plays games with satan that involve killing people? Glad men were just created to be pawns.
And still your little mythology does not explain the ones who never get rewarded for their pain and lose, and die with or live horrible lives. And further more does not explain why those with no belief get rewarded. And even one step further why those uncapable of showing your god praise, or even grasping the concept of god, never get rewarded (i.e. servely retarded people, people in different cultures who are suffering who don't even know of jesus, etc...).
I have obedience to my culture and blood, not your umbrella religion.

People and there bodies are secondary to both Satan and God, there both after your soul but its your choice. The Bible says, that a mans life is about as long as one breath compared to the eternity of your soul.
Ya see God doesn't look at things like Prodigy does, there are more important things than money and what ever else you feel is important. God is more interested in the spiritual battle for the soul.

The Apostle Paul said. "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers and the powers of the world forces who govern this darkness, the spiritual forces that control evil, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."

Trust me the severely retarded people who are suffering will get there reward. The Bible says "Better is one day in Your house, Than thousands elsewhere."

Your culture can give you nothing except hatred towards others. You show your true colors every post.

[prodigy06]

Originally Posted by role model

Ya see God doesn't look at things like Prodigy does, there are more important things than money and what ever else you feel is important.

Wow, you have no idea who you're talking to. Any "hate" I have is for our economically driven society. I don't believe man should work in meaningless jobs driven only for money and a hope of one day being "comfortable". It's dehumanizing. My dreams don't involve cars or colths.

Originally Posted by role model

Trust me the severely retarded people who are suffering will get there reward. The Bible says

My sister works with retarded teenagers, these kids are like animals. They have no sense of right and wrong. It's not their fault really it's just how they are. My sis tells me stories about how she'll walk into a room and the guys will just whip out their dick and start jerking it. They'll try to bite and attack her. They growl and spit. They try to fight with each other and if not looked after they will throw they're shit at each other and the people who work there. They're pretty much like little demons with no hope of even knowing that what they're doing is wrong. Why does your god allow them to suffer and live such lives?

Your culture can give you nothing except hatred towards others. You show your true colors every post.

You know nothing about my culture. What you call "hatred toward others" we call love toward each other. We believe in brining about stratification, we want to bring power back to the powerful. We believe strength is better then weakness, beauty is better then ugliness. We want to bring out mans true potential and not just sit back and wait to be "saved". Doesn't your religion believe god will only help those who help themselves? We believe the only way to truely honor god is to live your life achieving your greatest potential... not as an inert worshiper.

P.S. If you want to continue this, try not retreating to insulting someones heritage or making shallow assumptions.

[role model]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

My sister works with retarded teenagers, these kids are like animals. They have no sense of right and wrong. It's not their fault really it's just how they are. My sis tells me stories about how she'll walk into a room and the guys will just whip out their dick and start jerking it. They'll try to bite and attack her. They growl and spit. They try to fight with each other and if not looked after they will throw they're shit at each other and the people who work there. They're pretty much like little demons with no hope of even knowing that what they're doing is wrong. Why does your god allow them to suffer and live such lives?


You know nothing about my culture. What you call "hatred toward others" we call love toward each other. We believe in brining about stratification, we want to bring power back to the powerful. We believe strength is better then weakness, beauty is better then ugliness. We want to bring out mans true potential and not just sit back and wait to be "saved". Doesn't your religion believe god will only help those who help themselves? We believe the only way to truely honor god is to live your life achieving your greatest potential... not as an inert worshiper.

P.S. If you want to continue this, try not retreating to insulting someones heritage or making shallow assumptions.

First off, I don't even know what heritage you are, But I do see a lot of hate in you it shows every post.

Secondly you said, "They're pretty much like little demons" your right, because you didn't say little gods. Its the devils work. Why do you insist everything bad comes from God.

Third, If you want to continue this, read your bible before you make all these crazy assumptions about God and what He stands for, all your questions are answered in the bible for you to read..

4th, what I highlighted. You said 100 times that you didn't believe in God, but now I guess you do//// MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, I'M OUT! God Bless you Prodigy.

[prodigy06]

Originally Posted by role model

First off, I don't even know what heritage you are, But I do see a lot of hate in you it shows every post.

Secondly you said, "They're pretty much like little demons" your right, because you didn't say little gods. Its the devils work. Why do you insist everything bad comes from God.

Third, If you want to continue this, read your bible before you make all these crazy assumptions about God and what He stands for, all your questions are answered in the bible for you to read..

4th, what I highlighted. You said 100 times that you didn't believe in God, but now I guess you do//// MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, I'M OUT! God Bless you Prodigy.

"Its the devils work. Why do you insist everything bad comes from God."
What did these kids do? Why does your god allow them to be punished like this? No one deserves it.

"read your bible before you make all these crazy assumptions about God and what He stands for, all your questions are answered in the bible for you to read.."
All my questions come from the bible, you try to answer them with more nonsense from the bible which leads to a more questions. The entire book is a circle of lies and pathetic attempts to justify those lies.

"You said 100 times that you didn't believe in God"
I NEVER said that. Show me once where I said "i don't believe in god". I don't believe in your FALSE god and bastard son "jesus" true. But I believe in "god" and have never doubted the existance of him... ever in my entire life. I take such offense to your religion because I believe it offens god. That's why I'm having this conversation with you... if I was an atheist I wouldn't give a shit. But, it is very christian of you to put words in other peoples mouths, make crazy assumptions, and think that if someone doesn't call god "jesus" they must not believe in god, hate everyone and everything and lead angry shallow lives. Every christian is that same...

[role model]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

"Its the devils work. Why do you insist everything bad comes from God."
What did these kids do? Why does your god allow them to be punished like this? No one
deserves it.
I guess since you believe in God as you now have stated 2 posts in a row, its the same reason YOUR god allows it. You answered your own question.

"read your bible before you make all these crazy assumptions about God and what He stands for, all your questions are answered in the bible for you to read.."
All my questions come from the bible, you try to answer them with more nonsense from the bible which leads to a more questions. The entire book is a circle of lies and pathetic attempts to justify those lies.
Your questions come from not knowing ANYTHING about the bible, otherwise you wouldn't be misrepresenting it in every post.

"You said 100 times that you didn't believe in God"
I NEVER said that. Show me once where I said "i don't believe in god". I don't believe in your FALSE god and bastard son "jesus" true. But I believe in "god" and have never doubted the existance of him... ever in my entire life. I take such offense to your religion because I believe it offens god. That's why I'm having this conversation with you... if I was an atheist I wouldn't give a shit. But, it is very christian of you to put words in other peoples mouths, make crazy assumptions, and think that if someone doesn't call god "jesus" they must not believe in god, hate everyone and everything and lead angry shallow lives. Every christian is that same...
OK so its Jesus you don't believe in, or satan, cuz I know you said that just a few posts up. So how many gods do you have? What is your culture? and there belief in your god or gods? I have to ask since your to ashamed to bring it up after 280 posts.

answers above in bold.

[dennis]

Prodigy/Role.......This is turning into a real heated debate to say the least.All I can say is that In the begining God created a perfect world with no sin/pain/sickness...he made Adam and Eve and gave them the perfect world.He also gave them instructions and free will.They sinned...this is when pain/sin enters the world..from man.There are forces working all around us daily of good battling bad.God will make himself known to all men..it is up to us if we accept him or not.One day every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is lord.The sheep will be seperated from the goats.Prodigy made some comments about weak and strong people.."the meek shall inherit the earth".The ones here on earth that are puffed up with pride /power etc..and have no relationship with God will serve an eternity in hells firey pits.I have to go back to the facts role listed about prophesy...these numbers are staggering to say the least and should be enough to convince anyone that Christ is real and coming back to this earth.

[ThunderasCherub]

Wow it does get heated in here lol. Thats why I stopped posting in this topic.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by ThunderasCherub

Wow it does get heated in here lol. Thats why I stopped posting in this topic.

With a handle like Thunderous cherub I would think you would speak up for what you believe in.

[prodigy06]

Originally Posted by role model

answers above in bold.

1. My god does allow it. Why? I am not god, I can only guess. It's possibly genetic mutation may be as a result of human degeneration through various carnal praticies?
2. The bible is very new. So if you know ANYTHING about the history of man you can only interpret it in one way... as nonsense. You can't create a begining in the middle.
3. Ashamed? My goal here wasn't to advertise my beliefs but to discredit yours.
As long as you asked I'll tell you.
I guess if you want a name for it I'm a deist / Nordic occultist... sort of like "Ásatrú" or "Forn Sed". What that means is I believe in one all powerful god, but also believe man can only begin to fully comprehend god through nature and experiences. We know what makes us great and know what makes us fail. So we utilize and strengthen our powers ("virtues" you could say) to try to sculpt ourselves in accordance with nature. We represent these powers by "gods" or "god-men" such as Odin or Thor (wisdom and strength). We represent our "virtues" in mythology because we can't comprehend god, we can only use our innate consciousness to know what to aim for. These "gods" represent what we aim for. Nature is god's creation so nature is prefect and we are part of nature. And like nature we contain both elements to destroy and create, of violence and peace. So, we utilize ALL of our humanity for our purpose which is to live in our instinctual state in accordance with the natural order of things. But, and here comes in my problem with your religion, man has lost his natural conformity due to the proliferation of inhuman and repressive beliefs, such as christianity. Christianity breeds weakness and disorder by deeming certain god given virtues as "sinful". This puts man at a handicap and never allows for the true expression of his potential.
I don't believe in "hell", "sin" or "satan". I only believe that their are "weaknesses" that hold man back and man either creates for himself a heaven by living with nature or a hell by living against it. The world now is living against it, thus we have so many problems.
The "Nordic" part is just because I'm German so I can identify more with those gods. But all original peoples had very similar mythology, gods and the exact same virtues. So, don't think it's a racist idea.

[dennis]

Prodigy..thanks for that in depth explanation of your spiritual beliefs.Do you have an organized group of believers that meet ?

[ThunderasCherub]

Originally Posted by dennis

With a handle like Thunderous cherub I would think you would speak up for what you believe in.

Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, lol My handle is Thundera's Cherub. As much as I would LOVE to take credit for the name you may have mistaken me for, I have to explain that the Thundera's part is not religious at all. lol In fact its a Planet from a cartoon called Thundercats its the Thundercat's home planet. lol My apoligies for the misconception. However, I don't need to speak up for my beliefs in a online message board that discuss steroids. I believe all Christians in here are guilty of sinning for taking these substances, and I feel I have no right defending the Honor of my God in a place that God wouldnt want us. Its very hard for a crackhead to be taken serious when he is preaching the word of god with a needle in his hand. I will live by them and die by them. I will defend them when I feel they need to be defended. However, I have been told not to preach the word to those who do not want to listen. I was taught not to force my religious beliefs onto others. I don't see this post going in any direction I want to take part in. This is not a attack towards you, but I dont like to take part in a post that questions my relationship with the love of my life for the sake of a religious point and these are the people that share the same common belief as me.. On a Grand scale a online person who I respect verses the real love of my life who will bare my children and my last name. So if I am going to defend anything in this post it will be my family. or I can just sit back and read the rest of the debate and be amused by it. lol I would rather do the later. See my point?

[dennis]

Originally Posted by ThunderasCherub

Dennis, Dennis, Dennis, lol My handle is Thundera's Cherub. As much as I would LOVE to take credit for the name you may have mistaken me for, I have to explain that the Thundera's part is not religious at all. lol In fact its a Planet from a cartoon called Thundercats its the Thundercat's home planet. lol My apoligies for the misconception. However, I don't need to speak up for my beliefs in a online message board that discuss steroids. I believe all Christians in here are guilty of sinning for taking these substances, and I feel I have no right defending the Honor of my God in a place that God wouldnt want us. Its very hard for a crackhead to be taken serious when he is preaching the word of god with a needle in his hand. I will live by them and die by them. I will defend them when I feel they need to be defended. However, I have been told not to preach the word to those who do not want to listen. I was taught not to force my religious beliefs onto others. I don't see this post going in any direction I want to take part in. This is not a attack towards you, but I dont like to take part in a post that questions my relationship with the love of my life for the sake of a religious point and these are the people that share the same common belief as me.. On a Grand scale a online person who I respect verses the real love of my life who will bare my children and my last name. So if I am going to defend anything in this post it will be my family. or I can just sit back and read the rest of the debate and be amused by it. lol I would rather do the later. See my point?

TC..A month or so ago i asked you about your beliefs ..I was curious then about your name TC...You admitted then you were a christian.I just took for granted your handel was taken from the bible.I do not watch cartoons so i missed out completely on the true meaning of your handle.Yes..using gear in a country that it is illegal in is a sin and I am guilty of that.BUT..we all sin and fall short but we are still supposed to witness to the lost regardless.You can preach to those who do not listen for awhile then like I said earlier"dust off your sandals and go on to the next town ".All I meant to get you to think about was that we are all commisioned to spread the gospel and not keep the truth to ourselves.We all sin but we all need to witness..see my point ???

[ThunderasCherub]

Yes I do and thats why I have not disrespectfully argue'd against you. I fully understand your point. And I understand you make your points out of the love of God. And thats fine. I just choice not to take part in the arguements in this post. I have alot going in life as does everyone. So I learned to pick and choice my battles and this is one of them I rather sit back and witness.