Any ANABOLIC Christians

[375Ranger]

Just wondering if there were any other christians on the boad. sometimes I feel guilty for cycling, more so because I don't tell my wife. She thinks it's more impressive to reach your potential naturally with what God has given us. Anyway, just curious if there are any other guys here that are saved and have similar experiences.

[enduranceAthlete]

My first reaction is, God gave of steroids.

I had a Christian friend who also smoked weed from time to time and he said something to that effect: God gave us weed. His wife eventually showed him light.

Not being Christian, I don't grapple with spiritual issues ref. recreational drug use.

But, I do have the wife problem.

[role model]

Originally Posted by enduranceAthlete

My first reaction is, God gave of steroids.

I had a Christian friend who also smoked weed from time to time and he said something to that effect: God gave us weed. His wife eventually showed him light.

Not being Christian, I don't grapple with spiritual issues ref. recreational drug use.

But, I do have the wife problem.

How bout Meth amphetamines??? By the way made from draino. By your thinking God would have given that to us also. You and your friends thinking is flawed.

[role model]

Originally Posted by 375Ranger

Just wondering if there were any other christians on the boad. sometimes I feel guilty for cycling, more so because I don't tell my wife. She thinks it's more impressive to reach your potential naturally with what God has given us. Anyway, just curious if there are any other guys here that are saved and have similar experiences.

My question is, how far do you take Christianity and doing the right thing? You know eating McDonald's is unhealthy so is that sin like smoking or excessive drinking according to most preachers?

[propeine]

I'm a Christian and while not a "good one" I believe in God and was brought up with a pretty good understanding and knowledge of the Bible. I believe the key to most things such as this is moderation. Jesus may have made water into wine but he didn't tell anyone to go drink a gallon of it every day. I don't do rec. drugs other than drink sometimes. I have but I don't really like them to be honest. You could probably argue that we're trying to play God here with AAS but I see it as just another means to a goal, no more than say creatine. I mean would this also make TRT wrong because God chose to shut down your balls then who are you to start them up again? Modern medicine is "playing God" on a daily basis not just with stem cell research etc but with everything.

[Orangejuicer]

I'm a Christian, and in my opinion, you guys are looking at it the wrong way. God created very little. He created the earth, the animals, the plants, and everything else that was there in the beginning, and then he created man. Man created the rest. God had never called it a sin to improve one's self. Taking AAS is simply adding something to your body that your body already produces. You could make the argument that God never put food in man's mouth so maybe we're playing God by eating. God never gave us tylenol, so we were meant to suffer. God wants people to be happy, and God wants us to live long loving lives. God never said don't smoke pot, and God never said don't bump Meth....He'd probably rather we didn't because they are socially unnacceptable, but if they make you happy, they are not a sin. Do not confuse the laws of man with the laws of god. Many Orthodox Christian Monks drink themselves drunk, take entheogenic drugs, and live their lives to the fullest. It's what God wants.

[jsupstarz]

No comment

[flannel]

As Christians, we know what God's word says: there's no way we can earn salvation. It's a gift given through believe in Christ alone. Therefore, even if anabolic steroids are a sin, we can't lose our salvation because it's not ours and we can't earn it. It's a gift from God. However, Christ also said if you love Me, you'll obey my commandments - and one of those is to submit to earthly authorities (which say that anabolic substances are illegal without a legitimate reason and prescription for taking them). Hence, it may or may not be a matter of sin (although maybe personal conviction). But it's a matter of the heart, and the fact that if we choose to use illegal substances, then we're not immune to the consequences of using them, either physically or legally !!!

I'd stick with the wisdom: Do Right And Give the Consequences To God !!!

Then we won't have to worry about the answer to this question.

[role model]

Originally Posted by propeine

I'm a Christian and while not a "good one" I believe in God and was brought up with a pretty good understanding and knowledge of the Bible. I believe the key to most things such as this is moderation. Jesus may have made water into wine but he didn't tell anyone to go drink a gallon of it every day. I don't do rec. drugs other than drink sometimes. I have but I don't really like them to be honest. You could probably argue that we're trying to play God here with AAS but I see it as just another means to a goal, no more than say creatine. I mean would this also make TRT wrong because God chose to shut down your balls then who are you to start them up again? Modern medicine is "playing God" on a daily basis not just with stem cell research etc but with everything.

I'm really liking this thread; Your 1st sentence I think sums it up very well for all Christians. "I'm a Christian while not a "good one""
I went to Bible college for 1 year, but dropped out because this is not what I felt I should peruse. But I did learn quite a bit that year and I lived in there library.
I agree with everything you said except this: You said, "because God chose to shut down your balls then who are you to start them up again?"
God does not shut down your balls, God does not give you cancer, God does not do any of this. God gave everything and everybody "free will." Bad choices from previous generations is passed down threw your genes. Because Adam and Eve were made perfect, and were perfect, until they disobeyed God. This is where all the problems started a little over 6000 years ago.

Romans 5:12-15 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned. There is no comparison between God's gift and Adam's failure. If humanity died as the result of one person's failure, it is certainly true that God's kindness and the gift given through the kindness of just one person, Jesus Christ, have been showered on humanity. Therefore, everyone was condemned through one mans failure, and everyone received God's life-giving approval through One Mans verdict."

I could go on and on but this isn't sermon hour.

[NixLifter]

I AM a christian, and I thank (Very much) whoever got this thread started. It is something i have been struggling with off and on as well...
Again. thank you!
-Brandon

[role model]

Originally Posted by Orangejuicer

I'm a Christian, and in my opinion, you guys are looking at it the wrong way. God created very little. He created the earth, the animals, the plants, and everything else that was there in the beginning, and then he created man. Man created the rest. God had never called it a sin to improve one's self. Taking AAS is simply adding something to your body that your body already produces. You could make the argument that God never put food in man's mouth so maybe we're playing God by eating. God never gave us tylenol, so we were meant to suffer. God wants people to be happy, and God wants us to live long loving lives. God never said don't smoke pot, and God never said don't bump Meth....He'd probably rather we didn't because they are socially unnacceptable, but if they make you happy, they are not a sin. Do not confuse the laws of man with the laws of god. Many Orthodox Christian Monks drink themselves drunk, take entheogenic drugs, and live their lives to the fullest. It's what God wants.

This is correct, also there is a battle in the spirit world that gos on constantly, 24-7. Because Satan was thrown out of heaven to earth before man was even created. Like I said earlier, free will gives us all choices every day and who to follow.

Eph 6:12 "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, and powers, and forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places."

[dennis]

Yes..I am a christian and work in the church.The holy spirit has convicted me a few times in the past over steroid use.Not so much the use but the methods used to obtain them.The little white lies told to the wife,the rat holing of money etc...Anything you do in this world in excess other than worshiping our Lord Jesus Christ is a sin.In other words if your love is money,drugs,sex,music etc...and you spend more time on that than god and family you are not serving the correct God.You cannot serve 2 masters.Our body is the Lords temple....I feel if you are honset about your use with your wife..and you do not spend too much time with the gear ie;in the gym,on the net etcc and you focus on God and family you are not sinning.There is a scripture in the bible that talks about giving Ceasar what is due Caeser...this means you must do as the law states in the country you live and abide by that law....we all know it is not legal here.Whoever started this thread let me ask you this ...Why are you being convicted of this now?what are you feeling guilty about ?answer those questions ..if there is a problem repent of it and move along..God forgives us all our sin through Jesus ! Try witnessing to others in the gym..I do it every time i get the chance.

[propeine]

Role Model, I stand corrected. The good Lord did give us free will and we all choose to abuse it.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by propeine

Role Model, I stand corrected. The good Lord did give us free will and we all choose to abuse it.

For we have all sinned and fall short of the glory of God ! Good to hear you other Christians stand up and talk today...I used to try and witness on this site and usually the atheists would chime in argue with me all day !

[role model]

Originally Posted by flannel

As Christians, we know what God's word says: there's no way we can earn salvation. It's a gift given through believe in Christ alone. Therefore, even if anabolic steroids are a sin, we can't lose our salvation because it's not ours and we can't earn it. It's a gift from God. However, Christ also said if you love Me, you'll obey my commandments - and one of those is to submit to earthly authorities (which say that anabolic substances are illegal without a legitimate reason and prescription for taking them). Hence, it may or may not be a matter of sin (although maybe personal conviction). But it's a matter of the heart, and the fact that if we choose to use illegal substances, then we're not immune to the consequences of using them, either physically or legally !!!

I'd stick with the wisdom: Do Right And Give the Consequences To God !!!

Then we won't have to worry about the answer to this question.

This is amazing I had know Idea there were so many fellow Christians here.
Well said flannel.

[Reinheart]

I never was much of a believer but as far as i am concerned God said we can live our lives the way we want. We have the right to choose and act free when it doesn't come in harming other people. Live free my brothers. Enjoy your lives for they are not eternal.

[prodigy06]

Live free my brothers. Enjoy your lives

Word. We use medicine to live longer lives. We use steroids to live stronger lives. God didn't make them illegal, so fuck the law. I'm not a christian, but in general doesn't matter what religion you are (even though christianity is evil ) God is God and I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit if you shoot some test in your ass.

[ForemanRules]

The only thing more pathetic than a Christian is a Mormon.

[Reinheart]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

Word. We use medicine to live longer lives. We use steroids to live stronger lives. God didn't make them illegal, so fuck the law. I'm not a christian, but in general doesn't matter what religion you are (even though christianity is evil ) God is God and I'm pretty sure he doesn't give a shit if you shoot some test in your ass.

To the point!

[role model]