Filling the same prescription 2x...will it work?

[Shockrock3]

After I was discharged from the hospital..doc prescribed percs for my abscess. Well..I wanted the REAL percs (blue ones from Endo) not the generic. So I had a doctor friend write a new prescription to say "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" so I could get the real ones. Now...I still have the old prescription for the generics. Can I go to a different lets say CVS Pharmacy than the one I went to and fill this prescript or will the insurance company figure out something since I already filled one? Can I go to the same chain i.e. CVS but a different store or should I hit a different drugstore chain? Thanks for any responses.

Shock

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by Shockrock3

After I was discharged from the hospital..doc prescribed percs for my abscess. Well..I wanted the REAL percs (blue ones from Endo) not the generic. So I had a doctor friend write a new prescription to say "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" so I could get the real ones. Now...I still have the old prescription for the generics. Can I go to a different lets say CVS Pharmacy than the one I went to and fill this prescript or will the insurance company figure out something since I already filled one? Can I go to the same chain i.e. CVS but a different store or should I hit a different drugstore chain? Thanks for any responses.

Shock

your fine bro i did it all the time when I got the perc's for the back, I would use a different drug store, the have computers that have all times you ben there, insurance has no clue how perscriptions doctors gave, send them perc's my way bro

[wheelzdgh]

Originally Posted by Shockrock3

After I was discharged from the hospital..doc prescribed percs for my abscess. Well..I wanted the REAL percs (blue ones from Endo) not the generic. So I had a doctor friend write a new prescription to say "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" so I could get the real ones. Now...I still have the old prescription for the generics. Can I go to a different lets say CVS Pharmacy than the one I went to and fill this prescript or will the insurance company figure out something since I already filled one? Can I go to the same chain i.e. CVS but a different store or should I hit a different drugstore chain? Thanks for any responses.

Shock

The only med(to my knowledge) that will raise suspicion if filled too many times is oxyconton, thats a federally monitered drug, other than that Id say fill it, the doc has no idea you have another script and as long as you dont go real far away to fill the other one no suspicions will be raised!!!

[tcso1506]

Originally Posted by Shockrock3

After I was discharged from the hospital..doc prescribed percs for my abscess. Well..I wanted the REAL percs (blue ones from Endo) not the generic. So I had a doctor friend write a new prescription to say "NO SUBSTITUTIONS" so I could get the real ones. Now...I still have the old prescription for the generics. Can I go to a different lets say CVS Pharmacy than the one I went to and fill this prescript or will the insurance company figure out something since I already filled one? Can I go to the same chain i.e. CVS but a different store or should I hit a different drugstore chain? Thanks for any responses.

Shock

You should but I wouldnt suggest it and here is why, some states have a tracking system for prescription meds for example in KY there is a system called the CASPER system. everytime a prescription is filled it is logged into this statewide database. If things look to suspicious as in 4 prescriptions from 4 different doctors , ect. LE can be notified..

Just to risky if you ask me..

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by tcso1506

You should but I wouldnt suggest it and here is why, some states have a tracking system for prescription meds for example in KY there is a system called the CASPER system. everytime a prescription is filled it is logged into this statewide database. If things look to suspicious as in 4 prescriptions from 4 different doctors , ect. LE can be notified..

Just to risky if you ask me..

bro whenI broke the back I was in the emergency room a half dozen times and everytime I had a different doc, I filled the scrip every time with no prob. I would say I abused the privilage big time

[wheelzdgh]

Originally Posted by tcso1506

You should but I wouldnt suggest it and here is why, some states have a tracking system for prescription meds for example in KY there is a system called the CASPER system. everytime a prescription is filled it is logged into this statewide database. If things look to suspicious as in 4 prescriptions from 4 different doctors , ect. LE can be notified..

Just to risky if you ask me..

Yeah but they only register certain meds, even though perc's are strong that isnt one of the meds. Its just not, vicodin is more widely abused than perc's are!!! This thread is interesting, I know in my state oxy's are the big fed focus, they could care less if a guy had 2 perc prescriptions, unless he had 2 every week for 2 months, lol!!!

[tcso1506]

Originally Posted by wheelzdgh

Yeah but they only register certain meds, even though perc's are strong that isnt one of the meds. Its just not, vicodin is more widely abused than perc's are!!! This thread is interesting, I know in my state oxy's are the big fed focus, they could care less if a guy had 2 perc prescriptions, unless he had 2 every week for 2 months, lol!!!

Like I said I believe every state is different. I had a close relative get arrested for "Doctor shopping" and all the evidence came from the CASPER report. all he was getting was xanax to.. had 5 prescriptions from 5 different doctors all within a week.

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by tcso1506

Like I said I believe every state is different. I had a close relative get arrested for "Doctor shopping" and all the evidence came from the CASPER report. all he was getting was xanax to.. had 5 prescriptions from 5 different doctors all within a week.

now if you do that then yep your in trouble, all of my perscriptions I got were legit from the emergency room that is probably why they never que{tioned me. how about the people that are always on pain meds? do they show up on the casper? I know a few people who are always on, my wifes grandma is getting ready to die anytime now she has been in the hospital for months now and they have her on morphine all day long and she is not in pain, I gues its just to ease her feelings because she knows she is going.

[Bob Smith]

I think every state (or it could be national) has some type of prescription monitoring system. Besides looking for prescription fraud, it also proved the pharma companies with tons of info about what docs are prescribing what drugs and how often.

[buck]

As long as you are not getting an exceptionally large amount in a 1 month period then there should be no problems.

[Mark Kerr]

I wouldnt do it. Not only because of state tracking systems, but for pain medication, they (the pharmacists) usually call the doctor to confirm the Rx. If you dont think the doctor would mind, then go ahead.

And whoever said Percocets (aka Oxycodone/APAP) arent tracked is greatly mistaken as to what Percocets are. They are highly tracked, high monitored and highly scheduled.

[Kayz]

My g/f is a pharmacy technician, so I asked her about this.

She said that it is possible and done all the time, but you need 2 different prescriptions from 2 docs and they must be filled at 2 different pharmacies (different chains). The catch though is that you can only have insurance billed for ONE of the scripts. Insurance companies keep VERY detailed records of what you got, when you got it, where you got, who wrote the script, how much you got, and most importantly....whether or not you have any re-fills.

If you have a script from doc 1 with ZERO re-fills, you can only bill insurance once in the time period. For example, if you are given a 30 day supply of a medication, insurance will not pay again for 30 days (they might re-fill it at 28-29 days...depends on the meds). Or, you can go to another pharmacy and just pay cash for the script. This is how "doctor shopping" works. If you try to bill insurance for a 2nd time, this could throw up a red flag depending on the meds being prescribed.

See, there is no national database taht links all the pharmacies together. There really isn't even state databases in many states. Walgreens or CVS have their own databases that link all of their stores, but walgreens has no record of what CVS has dispensed to you. If you bill insurance once at pharmacy A.....and then go to pharmacy B and pay cash for the same shit 2 days later....there is no "record" of your transaction at pharmacy A ever taking place. Hence, pharmacy B will "see" nothing out of the ordinary. Just tell them you don't have insurance at the moment.

NOTE: I do not encourage this activity, but yes it is possible.

[Meat Train]

I can't blieve I made it to this thread so late--- and me, the pharmacy guy.

Kayz is right-- don't expect insurance to pay for something too soon-- no matter what the chain, they bill the same places. Also, once you start a problem like that, they start relaying on the phone between pharmacists and then it causes more questioning and wastes time (and may convince the pharamacist to not fill your script). As long as you go to a different chain that doesn't have your insurance info. you can get them for cash-- just don't show them your card. If you are on state aid (and I hope you are not), they will find out nonetheless and get you.
Spend the cash and fill it at Ma and Pa's down the street-- and bring us a tit story after the ordeal!

[Kayz]

And what really sucks is that medicaid only covers brand drugs...no generics for the poor.

[Shockrock3]

Well it worked no problamo....I went to a different chain..handed the pharmacist the script and filled it. She did ask for my card but never called the doc, etc. There are no refills so I don't think there should be a problem. I've never used the chain before so my info was all new to them. I'll tell you though...name brand is so much for expensive. I paid $30 for the real blue Endo Pharm Percs but only $10 for the Endocets. It's not like I'm hitting pharmacy's left and right month after month trying to do this. Again just a one time shot. I do appreciate all the thoughts/comments.

Shock