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Old 01-02-2004, 08:26 PM
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well guys i have good news and bad news.

good news is i saved a bunch on car insurance by switching to geico,lol.

the bad is my doc told me my heart was enlarged, he said it wasnt this big
as of last years check up. i dont know eveything yet, i have to have some
test run tuesday.
he said i may have to stop training for a short time until we can get this
taken care of, but i dont know what they can do?

any of you bro's been thru this?

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Old 01-02-2004, 08:32 PM
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well guys i have good news and bad news.

good news is i saved a bunch on car insurance by switching to geico,lol.

the bad is my doc told me my heart was enlarged, he said it wasnt this big
as of last years check up. i dont know eveything yet, i have to have some
test run tuesday.
he said i may have to stop training for a short time until we can get this
taken care of, but i dont know what they can do?

any of you bro's been thru this?
Going through this right now in fact...

My diagnosis....Left Ventricular Hypertrophy with Chronic Premature Ventricular Contractions......[That's a mouth full]

How did your check up show your Heart was enlarged bro? Did you have an Echo for a yearly physical?

If you don't already have one, get yourself a Good Cardiologist..Don't be afraid to ask your doc to refer you to one either...believe me, things didn't start looking up for me untill I started regularly seeing a heart specialist.

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What is your BP like? and which part of your heart is enlarged?
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Many, if not most, anabolic steroid users have enlarged hearts (i.e. left ventricular hypertrophy). Many, if not, most, serious weightlifters have LVH as well - independent of their steroid use. This, in and of itself, does not necessarily mean there is reason for concern. It is usually a normal adaptation to weight training.

But you do need to follow up on this, preferably with a sports medicine physician who is familiar with the effects of heavy weight training (and AAS use) on the heart, to determine whether there is pathology.
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Going through this right now in fact...

My diagnosis....Left Ventricular Hypertrophy with Chronic Premature Ventricular Contractions......[That's a mouth full]

How did your check up show your Heart was enlarged bro? Did you have an Echo for a yearly physical?

If you don't already have one, get yourself a Good Cardiologist..Don't be afraid to ask your doc to refer you to one either...believe me, things didn't start looking up for me untill I started regularly seeing a heart specialist.

P.S.

What is your BP like? and which part of your heart is enlarged?


i went to the doc today to see about his damn cold i have and he had
chest x-ray done, he came back and told me it looked enlarged and he
had compaired it to last years? he asked if i still trained and i told him yes.
he then asked i had been taking any aas, i told him no i hadnt taken any
since march. and then it was only 400mg of test for 10 weeks.
he told me he was going to send me to have a Echo and to see a heart
doctor he refs people to. so i dont know what the hell is going on, i was
just told this by him and then sent home with a script for cold meds,lol.

my BP has always been border line high, 150/90 avg.

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Hope all goes well for you. Please keep us informed.

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Damn, that is kind of scary...Good luck.
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go see a specialist!!!!! I was told the same by my primary... after seeing a specialist I feel much better!!!
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Well, one thing I can tell you that I've learned through all of this is;It is very important to monitor your Blood Pressure, and keep it at a managable level! I can't stress this enough!

High Blood pressure probably has more to do with your enlarged heart than your training and possably even your ASS usage. My blood pressure has been high for years (similar to yours) and I ignored it. It was only because of my other heart condition that I actually did something about it. Increased blood pressure causes the left side of your heart to become enlarged. In worst case scenario it can even cause Aortic Dissection..Which is what killed John Ritter.(That's fairly uncommon but it is still a possability)

I've learned that Cardio is also an important part of training...My cardiologist told me that increasing and doing regular Cardio not only lowers blood pressure but it strengthens the overall Cardovascular system and helps keep your heart from enlarging as much while training, and will ultimatly be better all around for your general physical well being...yada yada yada

Anyway...I got off the subject a bit.. In all seriousness, You probably don't have that much too worry about, it will probably result in some lifestyle changes for you..Similar to my own. And you are definatly going to want to get a handle on that blood pressure..You're going to want to stop lifting untill you get your BP under control, and your going to have to start adding cardio 3x week to your training schedule. And it will probably mean an end to any future AAS usage (because these will exagerate your condition, making something that is fairly benign into something that can be a problem).. Now, All of this could be premature..you haven't even had an echo yet. Having a stress test will tell your cardiologist a lot more about your heart, and will bring you a great deal of comfort I'm sure. And through all of this you are going to learn a lot more about your heart that will bring you a better overall understanding and possably a realization about AAS and how you train..

I'll be praying for you, and wishing you the best!

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good luck bro and good advice from the big phreez
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