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Old 10-17-2006, 01:54 AM
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Sup fellas. just got home from a long days work. tierd. but made $400 today so all is good.
anyways I can run test and get no gyno. It doesnt matter what dosage I use the test. Ive never used anymore than 2g's a week. mabee 2500 mabeeee but i dont really remember. Anyway I get no gyno with test.

But as of recently ive been taking dbols. I was using around 1000-1500mg test E/week and around 40-100mg dbol/day. I was running the dbol and the test together for a few weeks. Then I ran out of test. so I just stayed on the dbols and im still on the dbols by themselves. But about 2 weeks ago mabee sooner i felt a little hard painful lump under my left nipple. And I allready knew that this is a sign of gyno. So I still have the lump. I havent figured out if its gotten any bigger. Im ordering some Arimidex this weekend. So thats what I plan on using for the gyno problem.

the thing is, I have no idea if its gyno or not. My nipples arnt sore and they do not look swolen at all.

Im guessing this is the first stage of gyno and its just going to get worse. So Arimidex it is.

What do yall think? Gyno or no gyno

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Old 10-17-2006, 07:20 AM
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Arimidex is a anti aromatis only,it only works to prevent aromatisation,it wont reverse an existing condition.ie the effects you already have will not be remedied with arimidex ,it with only prevent furture aromatisation.
You need tamoxifen citrate{nolvadex}
You need to run the Arimidex as a preventative before you see sides,also it will make your cycle more efficient.

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Old 10-17-2006, 07:57 AM
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Arimidex is a anti aromatis.
Aromatase inhibitor is the correct discription


Arimidex® (anastrozole)

Quick overview:


Active Life: 48 hours
Drug Class: Aromatase inhibitor (Oral)
Average Dose: 0.25 - 1.0 mg/day
Acne: Yes
Water Retention: No
High Blood Pressure: May reduce bp when using aromatizable steroids
Liver Toxic: Yes
Decrease HPTA function: No


Arimidex® (generic name is anastrozole) is a newer drug developed for the treatment of advanced breast cancer in women. It is manufactured by Zenica Pharmaceuticals and was approved for use in the United States at the end of December 1995. Specifically, Arimidex is the first in a new class of third-generation selective oral aromatase inhibitors.. It acts by blocking the enzyme aromatase, subsequently blocking the production of estrogen. Since many forms of breast cancer cells are stimulated by estrogen, it is hoped that by reducing amounts of estrogen in the body the progression of such a disease can be halted. This is the basic premise behind Nolvadex, except this drug blocks the action and not production of estrogen. The effects of Arimidex can be quite dramatic to say the least. A daily dose of one tablet (1 mg) can produce estrogen suppression greater than 80 % in treated patients. With the powerful effect this drug has on hormone levels, it is only to be used (clinically) by post-menopausal women whose disease has progressed following treatment with Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate). Side effects like hot flushes and hair thinning can be present, and would no doubt be much more severe in pre-menopausal patients.
There are some concerns with using an aromatase inhibitor such as this during prolonged steroid treatment however. While it will effectively reduce estrogenic side effects, it will also block the beneficial properties of estrogen from becoming apparent (namely its effect on cholesterol values). Studies have clearly shown that when an aromatase inhibitor is used in conjunction with a steroid such as testosterone, suppression of HDL (good) cholesterol becomes much more pronounced. Apparently estrogen plays a role in minimizing the negative impact of steroid use. Since the estrogen receptor antagonist Nolvadex is shown not to display an anti-estrogenic effect on cholesterol values, it is certainly the preferred from of estrogen maintenance for those concerned with cardiovascular health.

Heres one I found on Nolvadex
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

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Old 10-17-2006, 08:53 AM
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Arimidex is a anti aromatis only,it only works to prevent aromatisation,it wont reverse an existing condition.ie the effects you already have will not be remedied with arimidex ,it with only prevent furture aromatisation.
You need tamoxifen citrate{nolvadex}
You need to run the Arimidex as a preventative before you see sides,also it will make your cycle more efficient.
Correct. Take some tamoxifen citrate to attempt to get rid of that lump. I would start taking a-dex and tamoxifen until the lump goes away, then just stay on the a-dex. You should then be able to play with the a-dex dose a little and feel what's right for you. You may only need .25mg/day. Keep that gyno away!
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Old 10-18-2006, 03:08 PM
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OK, what do you mean your taking around 1000-1500mg and 40-100mg are u just guessing? or r u just shooting what ever u feel like that day?

anyways Nolvadex is the way to go YOU should have had some on hand to start with just in case....

On a side note, do you drink coffee? I had a lump (small) in my breast many years ago and the doc told me to slow down on the coffee. eventually the lump subsided, once I quite drinking coffee. it beats the hell out of me but it worked.

Now where you not working at a clothing store in a kids mall?
Bro you use to keep us updated 2-3x a week with your life, what going on..
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Old 10-18-2006, 08:37 PM
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I mean exactly what I said. I mix it up according to how I feel. but its usually the same week by week but sometimes i like to chill and lower the dose for a week or 2.

So Yeah nolva it is. thanks alot for the replys.

I dont drink coffee and Im not on caffine atm. Its def gyno and its getting worse. werid b/c its only in my left nipple.


I hope it doesnt get real bad b4 the nolva arrives. I dont feel like geting surgery.

wish me luck.

Ive been working alot. Dont have nearly as much time anymore to surf on this wonderfull word wide web or ours.Its good tho i was getting bored of my computer I spent too much time on it this past summer. I have summers off, so i wasnt working much.

thx again
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Also if i squeeze my nipple it secretes clear fluid!!!!!!!!!!

I ordered Nolva from 2 dif places just so it gets here asap.
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I mean exactly what I said. I mix it up according to how I feel. but its usually the same week by week but sometimes i like to chill and lower the dose for a week or 2
You realize fluctuating blood levels can cause more side effect? Also why do you need to take 2g's of test a week?

I guess American Eagle/ Hollister pays really well that you made $400 in a day
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