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Old 03-30-2004, 10:59 AM
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Science suggests we are close(maybe already been done for all you conspiracy believers), so is this right? Is against Gods will(gary maybe you have thoughts). Who should control the cloning? What are the reason for cloning? Would it be ok for me to clone Bill Gates, befriend his clone, kill the real Bill Gates only to betray his clone and take over his fortune? What are eveyone's thoughts?
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Old 03-30-2004, 11:31 AM
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Science suggests we are close(maybe already been done for all you conspiracy believers), so is this right? Is against Gods will(gary maybe you have thoughts). Who should control the cloning? What are the reason for cloning? Would it be ok for me to clone Bill Gates, befriend his clone, kill the real Bill Gates only to betray his clone and take over his fortune? What are eveyone's thoughts?
cloning is cool. it's right. it's got nothing to do with god as he/she didn't have anything to do with the r&d involved in bringing it to fruition. the companies that spent the time, money and resources in its development should be the ones controlling it. there needs to be some type of mechanism built-in to the cloning process, and a procedure by which it would be policed and enforced, which would allow one to easily discern the clone from the original thereby negating the possibility of your gates scenario.

think about it. everyone can have their own catherine zeta jones or whoever floats your boat for that matter. what can possibly be wrong with that?
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cloning is cool. it's right. it's got nothing to do with god as he/she didn't have anything to do with the r&d involved in bringing it to fruition. the companies that spent the time, money and resources in its development should be the ones controlling it. there needs to be some type of mechanism built-in to the cloning process, and a procedure by which it would be policed and enforced, which would allow one to easily discern the clone from the original thereby negating the possibility of your gates scenario.

think about it. everyone can have their own catherine zeta jones or whoever floats your boat for that matter. what can possibly be wrong with that?
lol Catherine Zeta, what if one of these companies cloned you without your permission? Then what happens? You obviously couldn't just kill Chip #2. lol
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Talk about a can o' worms. We are not prepared as a society to deal with such issues. We can't even decide who should or shouldn't get married. How are we supposed to figure out who should or shouldn't be cloned?
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chip#2, haha sounds like a clone name! anyways, i heard even thru cloning that the saying of nothings better then the real thing pertains ... they say the clone isn't as good as the original. however, cloning for say stem cell research and what not i think could be beneficial. south korea already successfully cloned a human embryo btw.
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lol Catherine Zeta, what if one of these companies cloned you without your permission? Then what happens? You obviously couldn't just kill Chip #2. lol
you didn't read the part about the security mechanism which is intended to prevent this. obviously you would need permission to clone. if someone tried to clone you against your will or without you knowing, like in the arnold film, this mechanism would prevent it and it would also allow the easy identification of the clone. with all the means of security we have, this can be done. the real issue is not security, morals, etc here but rather the money that can be made from this. the government knows there is a lot to be made, it knows it will see negligible amounts of it and it doesn't like it. now, if the government were making all this money, you can bet they would have a program of propaganda in place to sell this quickly to the american public and the world.
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you didn't read the part about the security mechanism which is intended to prevent this. obviously you would need permission to clone. if someone tried to clone you against your will or without you knowing, like in the arnold film, this mechanism would prevent it and it would also allow the easy identification of the clone. with all the means of security we have, this can be done. the real issue is not security, morals, etc here but rather the money that can be made from this. the government knows there is a lot to be made, it knows it will see negligible amounts of it and it doesn't like it. now, if the government were making all this money, you can bet they would have a program of propaganda in place to sell this quickly to the american public and the world.
So we would be able to identify the clones from the "real" people?
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you didn't read the part about the security mechanism which is intended to prevent this. obviously you would need permission to clone. if someone tried to clone you against your will or without you knowing, like in the arnold film, this mechanism would prevent it and it would also allow the easy identification of the clone. with all the means of security we have, this can be done. the real issue is not security, morals, etc here but rather the money that can be made from this. the government knows there is a lot to be made, it knows it will see negligible amounts of it and it doesn't like it. now, if the government were making all this money, you can bet they would have a program of propaganda in place to sell this quickly to the american public and the world.
I think its cool, emagine if we cloned thick, or fatfood, or even FTW yeh and even me , then I would have everybody wearing speedo's or maybe even get the PT out more often. holy shit would this world be in for a big fucking surprise,
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you should just clone your thumb!
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I think its cool, emagine if we cloned thick, or fatfood, or even FTW yeh and even me , then I would have everybody wearing speedo's or maybe even get the PT out more often. holy shit would this world be in for a big fucking surprise,
I think one Rambo is enough!
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now, if the government were making all this money, you can bet they would have a program of propaganda in place to sell this quickly to the american public and the world.
Yeah. Isn't that some scary shit.
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I think one Rambo is enough!
like you should talk dolfe1, your probably one of the most sick person on meso, bro
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Yeah. Isn't that some scary shit.

i think it's a great idea but only to create spare vital organs to source when needed. that benefit in itself is a huge improvement over our current methods, ie donor programs. i agree that we're not ready for genetic carbon copies however i do like the idea of using the technology to correct all genetic shortcomings in unborn offspring. that way for example we don't have multiple crewbosses walking around, they just get it right the first time. in theory the human race would improve genetically with every succeeding generation. no need to juice, you're born w/ perfect disposition for muscularity. not a bad deal eh.
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Old 03-30-2004, 12:30 PM
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like you should talk dolfe1, your probably one of the most sick person on meso, bro
LMAO Oh so now I'm a sick person all of a sudden, what makes you say such horrible things Rambo? lol
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I think its cool, emagine if we cloned thick, or fatfood, or even FTW yeh and even me , then I would have everybody wearing speedo's or maybe even get the PT out more often. holy shit would this world be in for a big fucking surprise,
hey you forgot me bro. i'd sure help to get the pt out more. but i ain't wearing the speedo's...
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