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I think they said he was 41. I'm sure steroids will be blamed even though he was in trouble for cocaine just as recently as last week.

I don't know that much about the guy / never met him so I'm not going to say anything good or bad.

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I think they said he was 41. I'm sure steroids will be blamed even though he was in trouble for cocaine just as recently as last week.

I don't know that much about the guy / never met him so I'm not going to say anything good or bad.

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is this a real story??
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is this a real story??
Yup. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...olitan/2841230
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check out espn. This was their headline: Caminiti admitted steroid use, fought drug problem
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NEW YORK -- On the field, Ken Caminiti's all-out style served him well. Off the field is where it got him in trouble.

The 1996 National League MVP, who later admitted using steroids during his major league career, died Sunday. He was 41.


Ken Caminiti spent 10 of his 15 seasons in a Houston Astros uniform, but he won the 1996 NL MVP Award while with the San Diego Padres.


Caminiti died of a heart attack in the Bronx, said his agent-lawyer Rick Licht. The city medical examiner's office said an autopsy would be performed Monday, spokeswoman Ellen Borakove said.

"What we all loved about Cammy was his devotion to the game and his desire for the game. But it went into uncontrollable levels with no discipline," said one of his former coaches, Houston manager Phil Garner.

Caminiti's 15-year big league career ended in 2001, five seasons after he led the San Diego Padres to a division title and was a unanimous pick for MVP. But the three-time All-Star third baseman often was in trouble the last few years.

"I'm shocked. This was devastating. Even though he was divorced, he had a beautiful wife and daughters," said Diamondbacks outfielder Luis Gonzalez, who played with Caminiti on the Astros between 1990 and 1994. "He was one of the most intense players I've ever seen. I'm worried for [Craig] Biggio and [Jeff] Bagwell because those guys are playing in the biggest game of their lives [Monday]."

Just last Tuesday, Caminiti admitted in a Houston court that he violated his probation by testing positive for cocaine last month.

He was sentenced to 180 days in jail, but State District Judge William Harmon gave him credit for the 189 days he already had served in jail and a treatment facility since he was sentenced to three years' probation for a cocaine arrest in March 2001.

"This is the largest mistake I've made in my life," Caminiti said when he pleaded guilty in March 2002. "I had a real good thing going for me, and I got sidetracked. It doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't have to be drugs. It doesn't have to be alcohol. That part of my life is over."

“ He was a great player, but he got mixed up in the wrong things -- taking drugs. It's a sad reminder of how bad drugs are and what they can do to your body. It's a loss all of us will feel. ”
— Steve Finley, former teammate

In May 2002, Caminiti told Sports Illustrated that he used steroids during his MVP season, when he hit a career-high .326 with 40 home runs and 130 RBI. He estimated half the players in the big leagues were also using them.

Licht said Caminiti hoped to get back into the game, possibly in a position that would allow him to mentor younger players about avoiding the mistakes he made.

"I'm still in shock," Padres general manager Kevin Towers said. "He was one of my favorite all-time players."

Caminiti did return to baseball this year, serving as a spring training instructor with San Diego.

"He didn't look good," Towers said. "The best way to describe him is that he was a warrior in every sense of the word. I can't tell you how many times I remember him hobbling into the manager's office, barely able to walk, and saying, 'Put me in the lineup.' "

Licht said Caminiti was in New York this past weekend to help a friend, but did not go into detail.

"Man, that's just a tough one. I played with him for eight years," Dodgers outfielder Steve Finley said Sunday night, learning of Caminiti's death after St. Louis eliminated Los Angeles from the playoffs.

"He was a great player, but he got mixed up in the wrong things -- taking drugs. It's a sad reminder of how bad drugs are and what they can do to your body. It's a loss all of us will feel."

Caminiti batted .272 with 239 homers and 983 RBI for Houston, San Diego, Texas and Atlanta.

His defining moment during his MVP season came on Aug. 18, 1996, in the oppressive heat of Monterrey, Mexico, as the Padres prepared to face the New York Mets in the finale of the first regular-season series played outside the United States and Canada.

Battling dehydration and an upset stomach, Caminiti took two liters of intravenous fluid, ate a candy bar, then hit two homers and drove in four runs in an 8-0 victory.

"Becky and I are grief stricken at the premature death of one of the bravest athletes that we have known," Padres owner John Moores said. "We admired Ken tremendously and remained optimistic that he would conquer the personal challenges that he was dealing with."

Caminiti teamed with Tony Gwynn and Greg Vaughn in the middle of the Padres' 1998 lineup, leading them to the World Series, where they were swept by the New York Yankees.

"He was one of those guys that generated a lot of respect because he competed so hard," Cardinals manager Tony La Russa said. "This is really tragic."

Towers and Licht both recalled the enormous ovation Caminiti received during a 2003 ceremony marking the Padres' farewell at Qualcomm Stadium. The team moved into a new ballpark this season.

Licht said he had to go to Houston to persuade Caminiti to make an appearance, and Towers remembered the former star was nervous.

"He didn't know what kind of reaction he would get," Towers said.

After being showered with cheers, Caminiti told Licht it was his greatest day in baseball.

"It's a shame for his family as much as it is for his friends," former Padres teammate Andy Ashby said. "He's got three daughters who are going to miss having Dad around. It's a shame. It's a terrible thing
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He's probably gonna be the new poster boy for the anti steroids movement, especially with the new bill coming out of Washington. Biden will be all over this.
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Well Im interested in the autopopsy I will tell you that.

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He's probably gonna be the new poster boy for the anti steroids movement, especially with the new bill coming out of Washington. Biden will be all over this.
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Well Im interested in the autopopsy I will tell you that.

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im pretty sure he addmitted he was a crack cocaine addict too....
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yeah a dipshit at the gym was spouting off at the mouth about his death being caused by steroids...idiots!!!!!
they neglect the fact the he was caught on a drug test with cocaine in his system last week. cocaine causes permanent scarring of the hear, steroids MAY enlarge it. now which contributed more to his death?
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he was a good baller R.I.P
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fuckin gov is going to be allllllllllllllllll over this shit,even if he did coke,see seee see steroids another one dies gezzzzzzzzzzz
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Prayers should go out to his family.
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Great ball player though and im sure it was cocaine that did him in but they will focus on the steroids makes for a better story with all the acusations of athletes testing.


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I saw an interview with him....he infatically stated that he would use roids again.....that his real problems were coke and abuse of his old lady.....

He mainlined coke! had a horrible habit...
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Don't be coming on here blaming coke and steroids, we all know it was that evil Ephedrine that killed him, why do you think it was banned? Come on now thats the last thing we need to do now is start rumors!
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ephedrine yha right!! at one time up to 6 pills before a workout im still here!!!
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