Kerry donates war medals to Korean Olympian

[jbiggs]

Kerry Donates War Medals to Korean Olympian
(2004-08-23) -- Democrat presidential candidate John Forbes Kerry today donated several of his own medals to South Korean gymnast Yang Tae-young, who fell short of an Olympic gold medal this week due to a judging error.

"That young man's uneven parallel bar routine is seared...seared in my memory," said Mr. Kerry, who is also a U.S. Senator. "Since I had these medals just lying around the house--the ones I earned in Vietnam--I thought it would cheer him up."

The Democrat candidate said he personally delivered the decorations to the South Korean Embassy in Washington.

"The embassy was closed, so I tossed them over the fence," he said. "There were some ribbons or some medals...I don't remember. Anyway, ribbons and medals were absolutely interchangeable in the Navy."

A spokesman for the Kerry-Edwards campaign said the altruistic act demonstrates that Mr. Kerry is not the kind of man described in the new book by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

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[Kayz]

ROTFLMFAO....i thought this was serious at first.

[jbiggs]

Hey anything to get a bump in the polls!

[Kayz]

Goddamn, between Al Gore inventing the internet and Kerry being a war hero who cares more for S. Korean athletes than the Americans....I don't know why I'm a republican.

[Grizzly]

Lol

[Mark Kerr]

I decided to add my 2 cents to a political thread, because I think this is getting out of hand.

I am by no means a liberal, as everyone who knows me knows that I vote Libertarian, but for God sakes...

Compare what Kerry did during Vietnam, and what Bush was doing during Vietnam. One was in the jungle, waist deep in rice patties, one was in a frat-house, waist deep in beer kegs...

Anyone that is Pro-Bush but bashes Kerry's military record is a hypocrite and political practical joke.

I may disagree with Kerry's policies and his politicizing of the Vietnam war for his own gain, but either way he did way more for America than Bush did during that war.

And why do people hate Kerry? Because he fought in a war he didnt agree with or understand? Because he said Americans commited atrocities? Because he threw his medals into an embassy?

If I were in my early 20's, as I am now, and I was rewarded for what I considered atrocities, and saw some of my best friends forced to their deaths by a draft, I would have not only thrown my metals away, I would have stuck them right up my commanding officer's ass.

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by Mark Kerr

I decided to add my 2 cents to a political thread, because I think this is getting out of hand.

I am by no means a liberal, as everyone who knows me knows that I vote Libertarian, but for God sakes...

Compare what Kerry did during Vietnam, and what Bush was doing during Vietnam. One was in the jungle, waist deep in rice patties, one was in a frat-house, waist deep in beer kegs...

Anyone that is Pro-Bush but bashes Kerry's military record is a hypocrite and political practical joke.

I may disagree with Kerry's policies and his politicizing of the Vietnam war for his own gain, but either way he did way more for America than Bush did during that war.

And why do people hate Kerry? Because he fought in a war he didnt agree with or understand? Because he said Americans commited atrocities? Because he threw his medals into an embassy?

If I were in my early 20's, as I am now, and I was rewarded for what I considered atrocities, and saw some of my best friends forced to their deaths by a draft, I would have not only thrown my metals away, I would have stuck them right up my commanding officer's ass.

Nobody is criticizing his actually military record...at least I"m not. I commend the guy for being there. However, I think there are some questions that could be answered. If Kerry is so damn proud of that record, why doesn't he sign the release form to have ALL of his records released??

I am by no means sticking up for GW, but Kerry is the one who made this an issure...not the Republicans.

And bump for the LIbertarians...I am a registered Republican because in my area Libertarian is not an option.

I am a huge fan of Larry Elder.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Mark Kerr

Compare what Kerry did during Vietnam, and what Bush was doing during Vietnam. One was in the jungle, waist deep in rice patties, one was in a frat-house, waist deep in beer kegs...

Bush isnt running on his war record. Just like Kerry isnt running on his Senate record. Neither of them have it.

Originally Posted by Mark Kerr

Anyone that is Pro-Bush but bashes Kerry's military record is a hypocrite and political practical joke.

I dont admire or respect anyone who has lied about his actions in Vietnam and used the system to be sent home early. His service, IMO, is a joke. He is running on an issue that is a fabrication. Getting purple hearts for self-inflicted wounds is a joke. Using those "wounds" in order to be sent home after only 4 months service is a joke. He hasnt been able to refute any of the allegations from the Swift Vets. His only response is "They are lying, Im telling the truth, now lets go sue the book publisher, stores and use any other means to get this off the shelves before it causes even more damage to my campaign." Now he is saying that he wants to run on the issues, when he made Vietnam his main issue. Besides that, his Senate record sucks and hopefully people will see that.

BTW, Im not all gung-ho about Bush, but I respect him a hell of a lot more than I do Kerry.

[Mark Kerr]

Originally Posted by Kayz

Nobody is criticizing his actually military record...at least I"m not. I commend the guy for being there. However, I think there are some questions that could be answered. If Kerry is so damn proud of that record, why doesn't he sign the release form to have ALL of his records released??

I am by no means sticking up for GW, but Kerry is the one who made this an issure...not the Republicans.

And bump for the LIbertarians...I am a registered Republican because in my area Libertarian is not an option.

I am a huge fan of Larry Elder.

Oh, I also agree questions should be answered. I feel that any political candidate should give complete disclosure for information regarding an issue that they choose to run upon in an election.

BTW - I have Larry Elder's "10 Things You Cant Say In America." Great book.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Mark Kerr

Oh, I also agree questions should be answered. I feel that any political candidate should give complete disclosure for information regarding an issue that they choose to run upon in an election.

BTW - I have Larry Elder's "10 Things You Cant Say In America." Great book.

I havent read the entire book, but Ive read a good bit of it and agree that its awesome.

[maxx]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Bush isnt running on his war record. Just like Kerry isnt running on his Senate record. Neither of them have it.


I dont admire or respect anyone who has lied about his actions in Vietnam and used the system to be sent home early. His service, IMO, is a joke. He is running on an issue that is a fabrication. Getting purple hearts for self-inflicted wounds is a joke. Using those "wounds" in order to be sent home after only 4 months service is a joke. He hasnt been able to refute any of the allegations from the Swift Vets. His only response is "They are lying, Im telling the truth, now lets go sue the book publisher, stores and use any other means to get this off the shelves before it causes even more damage to my campaign." Now he is saying that he wants to run on the issues, when he made Vietnam his main issue. Besides that, his Senate record sucks and hopefully people will see that.

BTW, Im not all gung-ho about Bush, but I respect him a hell of a lot more than I do Kerry.

what did get those purple hearts for?ive not really heard...what gripes my ass is that he is so damn proud of those things now,but he came back to protest the war as soon as he came home.

you would that the american public would take him giving american war metals to a korean that got beat by an american a slap in the face....well i do..

maxx

[soulpower]

[quote=Bob Smith]
I dont admire or respect anyone who has lied about his actions in Vietnam and used the system to be sent home early. His service, IMO, is a joke. He is running on an issue that is a fabrication. Getting purple hearts for self-inflicted wounds is a joke. Using those "wounds" in order to be sent home after only 4 months service is a joke. He hasnt been able to refute any of the allegations from the Swift Vets. His only response is "They are lying, Im telling the truth, now lets go sue the book publisher, stores and use any other means to get this off the shelves before it causes even more damage to my campaign." Now he is saying that he wants to run on the issues, when he made Vietnam his main issue. Besides that, his Senate record sucks and hopefully people will see that.

ME: sorry but that's BULLSHIT

This past week, retired Admiral Crowe, former Senior Command Officer-Southest Asia Operations, Vietnam and former Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) appeared on Wolf Blitzer's program on CNN. He was in-studio, announced that indeed he was supporting Kerry's election and then confronted Mr. O'Neill, the author of "Unfit For Command" about his sources for the book.

In the course of the next five minutes, the "old man" cut O'Neill to pieces using, dare I say it, FACTS!!! Crowe was the senior officer in command during Kerry's tenure and signed-off on all the reports relating to Kerry's actions. Before coming on the show, he reviewed all the paperwork, again, by virtue of his stake in the paperwork.

Net result, O'Neill was "outed" as was the phony doctor, Louis Letson, who signed-off on none of the admitting and attending reports.

Crowe announced that if there was fraud involved, then Letson was "up to his neck in it" because he would be guilty of being duplicitous in filing false reports!

Crowe also noted that there were no dissenting reports concerning this incident and that Thurlow, the other "expert" in this report, cited in his report that they were all under small arms and automatic weapons fire at the same time. Further, Crowe confirmed the rescued (Rassman) officer's claim that he, Rassman, had submitted a report on Kerry's actions and had recommended him for the Silver Star in this incident. The award was reduced to the Bronze Star by the brass!

Crowe was also emphatic that he will "talk" to all the Swift Boat Vets For Truth to get to the bottom of this. He stated clearly that they were acting on hearsay, with no corroborating reports to support, and that they better be cautious how far they "travel" with this type of obvious political attack!

[Mark Kerr]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Bush isnt running on his war record. Just like Kerry isnt running on his Senate record. Neither of them have it.


I dont admire or respect anyone who has lied about his actions in Vietnam and used the system to be sent home early. His service, IMO, is a joke. He is running on an issue that is a fabrication. Getting purple hearts for self-inflicted wounds is a joke. Using those "wounds" in order to be sent home after only 4 months service is a joke. He hasnt been able to refute any of the allegations from the Swift Vets. His only response is "They are lying, Im telling the truth, now lets go sue the book publisher, stores and use any other means to get this off the shelves before it causes even more damage to my campaign." Now he is saying that he wants to run on the issues, when he made Vietnam his main issue. Besides that, his Senate record sucks and hopefully people will see that.

BTW, Im not all gung-ho about Bush, but I respect him a hell of a lot more than I do Kerry.

It isnt Kerry's job to refute the Swift Vets, nor should he be expected to do so. The official records are enough to validate Kerry, and although I agree Kerry is no Audie Murphy, he deserves credit for going, when Bush did not. And Bush is open to criticism for his war record, because his campaign uses Kerry's war record to discredit Kerry. Any argument one uses to defile another should be able to be applied back to that original person (in fact, that is the very definition of a hypocrite.)

About his lawsuits, I also agree. He had no right to do that, and if he is indeed telling the truth, he should have no worries about a book of such lies (if indeed they are, as he alleges.)

His Senate record does suck, in fact, it REALLY SUCKS.

My original point still stands, if Bush supporters are willing to use an argument against Kerry, then they should be prepared to apply that same argument to Bush. Otherwise, it is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

[Mark Kerr]

Side Note: However, I do respect Bush more than I respect Kerry. I think Kerry will do or say anything to get a vote, but I think Bush does what he genuinely believes is right. I just happen to disagree with Bush about what is "right."

So although I dislike Bush, I respect him more than I do Kerry.

P.S. I put "right" in quotes, so lets not turn this into a Platonic argument.

[Kayz]

Elder's "10 Things You Can't Say in Ameria" is very very good!!! I also like his new book "showdown".

Elder is good because he is black and therefore is able to talk about things you or I could not do so and be taken seriously.

I also like reading works by Dinesh D'Souza.