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Old 07-09-2004, 04:05 PM
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Old 07-09-2004, 10:34 PM
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so in other words.........censorship is ok with you guys! am i right??? just because you dont agree with it (movie) dosent mean no one else should see it either!!!
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so in other words.........censorship is ok with you guys! am i right??? just because you dont agree with it (movie) dosent mean no one else should see it either!!!
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Yes, I am all for censorship when the movie is filled with lie after lie. If Moore would have made the moive from a unbaise point of view and gave both sides to the argument like a real documentary does, then I would have no problem with the movie.

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Have any of you anti Michael Moore haters actually ever seen F911 ? You fucking whining little pro censorship dicks should take the Michael Moore ( not moorer u retard) challenge. MM will give $10k to anyone who can point out and then support with facts ONE FUCKING LIE ! garyzilla this should be easy for you if the film is so lie filled ? But you wont, you'll just whine on this board like a spoiled BYATCH! Make points with fact, not conjecture.

Did you bother reading the entire article, or just the headline ? Did you see the 2nd paragraph where it said "Both theater chains, which were not in domestic distributor Lions Gate's original 800-theater release plan, are protesting the content of Moore's film " Which means they werent ever asked to show the films anyway ! Who cares if they refuse ? This is called grandstanding ...For Fuck-sake fellas read the whole article !!! Are we this shallow as a society ?


Is the movie biased...YES. But in that argument, Spiderman is biased too. i want to see Doc Oc's version of the movie. Maybe Doc OC or the Green Goblin is the good guy.. and maybe Spiderman is the punk terrorist?
Michael Moore has the right to make a film thats entertaining as well as thought provoking doesnt he ?
History is written by the winners Garyzilla, not the losers.

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PRETTY HARD TO POINT OUT A LIE....WHAT HE DID WAS TAKE QUOTES FROM INTERVIEWS AND CONVENIENTLY LEAVE OUT CERTAIN PARTS E DOESNT WANT HEARD OR SEEN....IN EFECT, IT GIVES THE VIEWER A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN THE PERSON INTERVIEWED INTENDED...SEVERAL DEMOCRATS WO ARE SUPPORTS OF THE 9-11 FILM, ACTUALLY WERE FURIOUS WITH MOORE FOR CUTTING THEIR QUOTES AND EDITING THEM...WHEN MOORE FIRST RELEASED THE FILM, HE SAID THAT HIS MOVIE WAS BASED ON FACTS AND ANYONE WHO SUGGESTED OTHERWISE PUBLICLY WOULD BE SUED...NOW HE SAYS THAT THE FILM IS AN OPINIONATED DOCUMENTARY AND NOT TO BE INTENDED AS STRAIGHT FACTS....WONDER WHY HE CHANGED HIS STANCE?


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Have any of you anti Michael Moore haters actually ever seen F911 ? You fucking whining little pro censorship dicks should take the Michael Moore ( not moorer u retard) challenge. MM will give $10k to anyone who can point out and then support with facts ONE FUCKING LIE ! garyzilla this should be easy for you if the film is so lie filled ? But you wont, you'll just whine on this board like a spoiled BYATCH! Make points with fact, not conjecture.

Did you bother reading the entire article, or just the headline ? Did you see the 2nd paragraph where it said "Both theater chains, which were not in domestic distributor Lions Gate's original 800-theater release plan, are protesting the content of Moore's film " Which means they werent ever asked to show the films anyway ! Who cares if they refuse ? This is called grandstanding ...For Fuck-sake fellas read the whole article !!! Are we this shallow as a society ?


Is the movie biased...YES. But in that argument, Spiderman is biased too. i want to see Doc Oc's version of the movie. Maybe Doc OC or the Green Goblin is the good guy.. and maybe Spiderman is the punk terrorist?
Michael Moore has the right to make a film thats entertaining as well as thought provoking doesnt he ?
History is written by the winners Garyzilla, not the losers. remember that huh ?

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Old 07-10-2004, 01:38 AM
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Hi Slick - Please provide a link ( from a major media outlet please, not from MichaleMooreIsAFatFuck.com or something like that) to 1 Dem used in the film that was " furious " with Moore for cutting their quotes and editing them for everyone to see ? Thanks

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Old 07-10-2004, 04:56 AM
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Hmmm, lets see, Bush makes a comment about Palestinian suicide bombers while on the golf course, well before 9-11 ever happened and Moore passes it off as a quote about Al-Quiada after 9-11.
Cant speak to that one, i dont give a flying fuck when it happened

He accuses Bush of some impropriety for letting some of the Osama family leave the country after 9-11. But Richard Clark whom Moore has come the the defense of many times has come foward and said that, that decisions was made by him, was the right decision to make, and he would make it again (CNN).

EHHH- I have the footage of Clark in front of the 9/11 commission saying the exact opposite of what you say here. I will put it on my FTP server for you Wanglicker, sorry windingo, and you can view it yourself. Nice try on that one though.

He says that the Washington Post has sighted that bush was on vacation 47% the time. But the Washington Post never said Bush was on Vacation 47% of the time. The Washington Post said the Bush was away from the White House 47% of the time. This time includes state visits, touring the country and speaking, and time spent at Camp David, from which the president can easily perform his duties a chief executive and does so. (Washington Post) In fact you can see British Prime Minster Tony Blair in the background while Moore is accusing Bush if taking a vacation.

Ehhh - Please sight the source where you claim MM "sighted that bush was on vacation 47% the time " , even if its on Foxnews? I have never read that, and subsequently WantDickInMyHole, i am calling bullshit .

He goes around and tries to get congress men to sign their children into the military. First it’s ridiculous to think that any person would sign another person into the military even if they were related. So it's what I would like to call a duh point. Ya no shit they didn't sign it. You wouldn't either. You’d have no right to in the fist place. The truth is that a higher percentage of congressmen have served in the military than the general population and a higher percentage of congressmen have children who have served in the military than the general population. Moore likes to point out that only 1 member congress has a child who is serving in Iraq but every news agency I've seen says 4 have children who have served in Iraq. If you do the math that is much more than the general population.

Now on the Florida election: Let it go. Just let it go. Bush won. If the recounts would have continued Bush still would have won. There was no big conspiracy. Florida is notorious for wrong calls. In 1992 they called it for Clinton and Bush Sr. won it. I don't see any bitching about that. It's a state that is split both geographically and ideologically by a time zone. That coupled with the media’s drive to be the first with the call makes it a mistake waiting to happen. Gore lead in Florida for about 10 minutes and in that 10 minuets every news agency made the call for Gore including Fox. It was a mistake to make the call. And its a mistake that will happen again until some solution to the problem of calls based on exit polling and early returns is put into place.

Ehhh- 11 independent councils have seperately concluded that In every scenario, Gore wins florida. Even your beloved foxnews admits this.But for the sake of honesty, i confess that i voted for Bush in 2000 , and was hoping the fucker could Hi-Jack the win. Gore Scared the shit out of me.
http://dir.salon.com/politics/fix/20...fix/index.html

For a guy who never sites any of his facts Quasimoto sure likes to demand that everyone else does. But remember you can’t use any from a source like fox news. Only good respectable news organizations like CNN or The New York Times will do. After all its not like they've been rocked by journalistic improprieties during the past year. Oh wait they have.

I dont "demand" anything. i only ask that your point be from fact, not from the good book, or some shit you heard at the gas station, or something you read off of Toms Tobbacco website. Is that unreasonable ?

P.S. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

No where does it say that a private individual or institution has to give you a bully pulpit from which to spread propaganda. It is everyone’s right to sell what they want.
I aint selling shit WangChung, i am offering free of charge ..So blow me !

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Old 07-10-2004, 05:27 AM
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Ok before I read all of these posts the first thing I want to point out is THAT'S NOT FUCKING CENSORSHIP BECAUSE ONE BUSINESS DOES NOT WANT TO BUY ANOTHER'S PRODUCT!!!!
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Ok before I read all of these posts the first thing I want to point out is THAT'S NOT FUCKING CENSORSHIP BECAUSE ONE BUSINESS DOES NOT WANT TO BUY ANOTHER'S PRODUCT!!!!
Right. Not airing Michael Moore's garbage on the movie screen is no different than a theater not choosing to air Spiderman.
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1. "EHHH- I have the footage of Clark in front of the 9/11 commission saying the exact opposite of what you say here. I will put it on my FTP server for you Wanglicker, sorry windingo, and you can view it yourself. Nice try on that one though."

Here is the link you no source sighting sack of shit hypocrite.
www.hillnews.com/news/052604/Clarke.aspx
(hillnews a very respectable source)

2. "Ehhh - Please sight the source where you claim MM "sighted that bush was on vacation 47% the time " , even if its on Foxnews? I have never read that, and subsequently WantDickInMyHole, i am calling bullshit ."

You were right I was wrong. Moore said Bush was on vacation 42% of the time, my bad.
Here is a link showing that Moor said Bush was on vacation 42% of the time from the very conservative MTV.

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/artic...04/story.jhtml
I cant even believe you're arguing about this its in the fucking movie.

And here is the Washington post article that Moore gets that from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

Attached are a few pictures of what Moore considers Vacation days.

3. "Ehhh- 11 independent councils have seperately concluded that In every scenario, Gore wins Florida. Even your beloved foxnews admits this.But for the sake of honesty, I confess that I voted for Bush in 2000 , and was hoping the fucker could Hi-Jack the win. Gore Scared the shit out of me.
http://dir.salon.com/politics/fix/2..._fix/index.html"

What 11 independent councils, you're link doesn't mention 11 independent councils it only says that some of the recounts said that Gore won. But it doesn't say that only about 25% of all media recounts done found this to be the case. And none of these recounts used the criteria of the recount in question that was before the Supreme Court. The criteria that was used for the recount that was going on would have found Bush to be the winner. As well as 75% of all other recount criteria used. All you link shows is that if you manipulate the standards from county to county you could irk out a Gore victory. Never mind that this is blatantly illegal and unconstitutional.

Here is the USA today link showing that Bush would have won the recount in question.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ecountmain.htm

Game set match come back when you "truly" learn to think for yourself.


I cant stand Moore and Im a Democrat...The guy is just a windbag and has nothing positive to offer...He just spends his time making money through the capitalistic system he despises....If he hates Capitalism so much, why does he try to make money through the United States????? The guy makes me sick and I hope he catches an ass-whoopin....id love to give him one if given the cance...
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if moorer has the freeedom to say what he wants thru his movie, the theatre has the right to not play it ... it's not censorship. i applaud them on not showing the film and stating it is propaganda!
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i see we have alot of kool aid drinkers here (if you know what i mean)
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