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what are your totlal T. free T, estradiol,e2,cortosol,prolactin,tsh levels while on hrt?
i used steroids for 15 years and my T levels never fully came back,then again i could have had low t before steroids but i doubt it. i used 50mgs of clomid per day for 14 days and my t levels more than doubled as did my libido. however,there are some side effects with lomg term clomid use. i now use just 100mgs of test cyp per week. on the 7th day,just hours before my next shot,i get my blood levels checked. and total T is aroud 610 ng .estradiol is 24.everything else is good as well. using just 250 iu of hcg twice a week,2 days prior to your next injection works wonders while using the t. my libido is great as is my energy and physique./ more is not better when using hrt,it will knock eveything else out of whack. with your height and weight,100mgs is fine. try the hcg protocol as well and give it time. the libido is also a psychological issue as well,as i struggled with that for years. i never had problems getting girls,once i did get a girl,i was scared to death of her wanting sex. by the way,even with all those T problems,i have 3 beautiful children.you'll be fine.
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chap,
what are your totlal T. free T, estradiol,e2,cortosol,prolactin,tsh levels while on hrt?
i used steroids for 15 years and my T levels never fully came back,then again i could have had low t before steroids but i doubt it. i used 50mgs of clomid per day for 14 days and my t levels more than doubled as did my libido. however,there are some side effects with lomg term clomid use. i now use just 100mgs of test cyp per week. on the 7th day,just hours before my next shot,i get my blood levels checked. and total T is aroud 610 ng .estradiol is 24.everything else is good as well. using just 250 iu of hcg twice a week,2 days prior to your next injection works wonders while using the t. my libido is great as is my energy and physique./ more is not better when using hrt,it will knock eveything else out of whack. with your height and weight,100mgs is fine. try the hcg protocol as well and give it time. the libido is also a psychological issue as well,as i struggled with that for years. i never had problems getting girls,once i did get a girl,i was scared to death of her wanting sex. by the way,even with all those T problems,i have 3 beautiful children.you'll be fine.
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Why are you taking HCG during a cycle. You should be well aware this should only be used 3 or 4 weeks after a cycle and only for a couple of weks. Also, the dosage should be about 5- 10 times the 250I.U.
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Why are you taking HCG during a cycle. You should be well aware this should only be used 3 or 4 weeks after a cycle and only for a couple of weks. Also, the dosage should be about 5- 10 times the 250I.U.
Krembles are you at the right site we are on HRT here for low testosterone not doing steroids and cycles. You need to go to the Steroid Forum or if you have low T you need to do some reading go to the stickys above and learn.
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Also, the dosage should be about 5- 10 times the 250I.U.
Yeah, if he wants to totally ruin is leydig cells
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Krembles are you at the right site we are on HRT here for low testosterone not doing steroids and cycles. You need to go to the Steroid Forum or if you have low T you need to do some reading go to the stickys above and learn.
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Krembles, please watch your tone of voice when participating in this forum. This is a no-flame board. You could have made your points just as effectively without making a personal attack.

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You lie about my posts and and neglect your own poor advice. Look at you!
Your health is pathetic. My test levels are over 900. I don't wight 260lbs to
325 like you. You cigaretts were your first mistake. I weigh 195 lbs. am 6"
and my waist is 32'. If my balls shrink I would stop this TRT for a couple of months and go on a cruise. You constantly give advice on irrevesible problems. You should be ashamed.
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Get Krembles out of here.
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Why are you taking HCG during a cycle. You should be well aware this should only be used 3 or 4 weeks after a cycle and only for a couple of weks. Also, the dosage should be about 5- 10 times the 250I.U.

Krembles, it looks like you are confusing HRT with PCT regarding the HCG. None of us cycle HRT. Do you cycle an HRT protocol with AAS? I read your results and measurments, they are admirable. I don't know why you do not admire the results the Phil has accompllished. If there were 10 Phils for every 100 obese person in the country, we'd have a whole new perspective on weight management. Swale would have to keep cloning himself to keep up.
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Phil has helped many people on the boards, when first started looking for help, I had no idea about the problems with estrogen until Phil told me about the problems he had with high E2.

The reason Phil's on HRT was becuz of the line of work he was in at the time which caused his problems.
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everyone has different genetics and different life histories to work from

We can all learn from their experiences

By the way, I am surprised that a certain person here still has a 'green reputation button' on the upper right of their posts, that little white 'scale' thing at the upper right of a bad post is there for a reason, and pretty soon the green button will turn black.
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Krembles--You will either straighten out your act, or you will be gone. Attacking Phil will soon leave you out in the cold, as he is a greatly valued member of this Forum.

Members are welcome to diagree--but we back up our opinions with actual facts or personal experience.

Besides that, you have no idea what you are talking about. For instance, HCG should never be administered at doages higher than 500IU per day. Even with respect to AAS PCT, you are clueless.

Please respect the fact there are quite a few guys here now with a very good understanding of these topics. You clearly do not. If you want to learn, you are welcome to stay. But one more instance of you acting in the manner you have will be your last.
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