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Old 07-22-2008, 01:21 PM
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Prolactin 2.5-17 ng/mL 16.8
LH 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL 3.8
FSH 1.4-18.1 mIU/mL 4.5
TSH .40-4 uIU/mL 1.87
Free Test. 9.3-26.5 pg/mL 15.9


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Test. tot. 45-85 ug/24 hrs 37
estradiol 0-7 ug/24 hrs .7
Cortisol 35-168 ug/24 hrs 99

I am currently taking tamoxifen and arimidex to try and restart. Does anyone know if clomid could be used to help me re-start, why or why not? Any other thoughts would be welcome.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Could clomid help me?

Anybody have any thoughts?
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:23 PM
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Lh is kicking but signal is weak you need to supercharge that bitch now if you only knew how HAHAH Thats one of the things i have been starting to experimenting with people on in the near future. The theory is very strong and clincal evidence is backing it up according to specific testing verifying abnormalities in same situaiton in clients..

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:02 AM
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Can you expand on what you have said, I don't quiet understand. Thanks
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:36 AM
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I really wonder how 2, how many men on trt tried clomid first and what was experienced.
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Default Re: Could clomid help me?

everywhere i read suggests tamoxifen over clomid cuz the side effects for clomid are pretty likely to occur whereas the tamox not so much...and tamox sides aren't as bad.

why are you taking arimdex? is ur E2 .7? if so, its so low...why lower it?

also how long on Tamox? dosage? i have similare labs as u....3.4 lh and total T is 350 ref range 250-1100. im on 20mg tamox daily...so far 2.5 wks...no real noticeable diff yet. was told it would take 4-6 wks.
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Old 07-30-2008, 07:05 PM
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everywhere i read suggests tamoxifen over clomid cuz the side effects for clomid are pretty likely to occur whereas the tamox not so much...and tamox sides aren't as bad.

why are you taking arimdex? is ur E2 .7? if so, its so low...why lower it?

also how long on Tamox? dosage? i have similare labs as u....3.4 lh and total T is 350 ref range 250-1100. im on 20mg tamox daily...so far 2.5 wks...no real noticeable diff yet. was told it would take 4-6 wks.
I am a patient of Dr. Crisler. I think he has me on arimidex to lower my E2 so my HPTA will adjust and make testosterone to make up for the lower E2. I don't want to tell you my exact trt. because I don't know if he would like me to tell you his trt. I will ask him the next time I talk to him and possibly tell you then. Tamox hasn't worked for me yet after second attempt.

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I am a patient of Dr. Crisler. I think he has me on arimidex to lower my E2 so my HPTA will adjust and make testosterone to make up for the lower E2. I don't want to tell you my exact trt. because I don't know if he would like me to tell you his trt. I will ask him the next time I talk to him and possibly tell you then. Tamox hasn't worked for me yet after second attempt.
DR J would shit a brick if you posted his work because its dr/client confidential. He would drop you faster then a 10 cents hoar if he found out ...He got eyes and informants all over wathcing.
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DR J would shit a brick if you posted his work because its dr/client confidential. He would drop you faster then a 10 cents hoar if he found out ...He got eyes and informants all over wathcing.
Yeah right
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Old 08-02-2008, 01:56 PM
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I didn't know how he felt about that. I am not going to tell him anything.
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Dr. John does not like his men to tell others how he is treating them becaues each one is different what he is doing for you might not work for others and make them worse. Best you can do is tell people to go to his web site and read TRT: A Recipe for success and his HCG update.
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Prolactin 2.5-17 ng/mL 16.8
LH 1.5-9.3 mIU/mL 3.8
FSH 1.4-18.1 mIU/mL 4.5
TSH .40-4 uIU/mL 1.87
Free Test. 9.3-26.5 pg/mL 15.9


From Rhein:
Test. tot. 45-85 ug/24 hrs 37
estradiol 0-7 ug/24 hrs .7
Cortisol 35-168 ug/24 hrs 99

I am currently taking tamoxifen and arimidex to try and restart. Does anyone know if clomid could be used to help me re-start, why or why not? Any other thoughts would be welcome.
King... Look man.. Your Prolactin is super high.. How come no comment has been made on that?? If prolactin is too high, this will impact your T levels for sure.. What does Dr. John think about your prolacin??
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Talking to dr nordt this guy is suffering from estrogen dominace and could explain why his prolactin is so high..
DR j needs to work his magic to rebalance his hormones in to a more favorable t/e ratio.
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You could try DHEA supplementation. It lowers prolactin, which could be the cause of your hypogonadism. Also DIM (or arimidex as your doing), to lower your estradiol. (lowering estradiol also lowers prolactin, and apparently can also increase testerone) Both helped me a lot..
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I don't think Dr. Crisler thinks my prolactin is that big a deal. He said it can go super high after sex, and other things. I will check with him on monday.
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everywhere i read suggests tamoxifen over clomid cuz the side effects for clomid are pretty likely to occur whereas the tamox not so much...and tamox sides aren't as bad.
tamoxifen is superior to clomid, but Id still use caution.

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Clomid & Nolvadex's Toxic Side Effects Exposed - Liver damage, Impotence, Cancer, Loss Of Vision

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