day one of attempting to restart

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by chap

libido desire lulled back down again this past week, not much desire at all really, but other than that i feel great and gym workouts are great, body composition is really good

I'm wondering if somehow cialis can cause a secondary effect that actually helps desire in libido, due to some mechanical stimuli that somehow effects the brain, as I did feel a stronger libido the last time I took cialis (even though the side effects of cialis are very unpleasant for me)
I might experiment with it again soon.

What is it that you are actually using,
Cialis
or
LiquiCia
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Not sure yet but I am second time now having bad experience with LiquiCia.

I take original Cialis twice weekly. My prescription plan does not pay for enough of it, so I have also LiquiCia.
Couple months ago I used LiquiCia twice in the row. The second dose kept me spaced out for over a week, frequent urinations, burning urethra. So I did not used for two months and decided to not use it in consecutive doses.
Week ago I used again once. Same thing, spaced out, frequent urination, burning urethra.

Went to a doctor, blood in urine, I am on 10 days Cipro 500mg twice daily for 10 days.

Wonder if it could be something else, but it is too much of coincidence.
I used one squeeze of a dropper. First time I measured volume with insulin syringe=1ml
I store it in the drawer next to my bed, not in refrigirator???

[pmgamer18]

JanSz did I read this right you took cialis 2 days in a row this is bad don't do this. Best way to get past the sides of cialis is to take it every 72 hrs doing tihs will also keep your BP down. As for libido yes I feel it helps because just seeing a sexy looking women it gets up if this is not a libido boost what is.

[BigAk]

Originally Posted by chap

libido desire lulled back down again this past week, not much desire at all really, but other than that i feel great and gym workouts are great, body composition is really good

I'm wondering if somehow cialis can cause a secondary effect that actually helps desire in libido, due to some mechanical stimuli that somehow effects the brain, as I did feel a stronger libido the last time I took cialis (even though the side effects of cialis are very unpleasant for me)

I might experiment with it again soon.

Chap... Isn't that normal though?? especially for guys like us at 40?? I mean, is it realistic to expect to be horny every moment during a given week?? I think there are many variables that will cause libido fluctuation in our life... work stress, sleep or lack of, feeling down every now and then... etc... I think it's pretty normal to have ups and downs at any age actually... Am I wrong??

How about your erections though??

I never wanted to get hooked on Cialis as I didnt' want to become dependent on it. Actually, I've tried it one time and didn't like it....

[chap]

hi bigAk, how are things going for you?

I guess it is 'normal', I feel really good, if I 'abstain' for a week urgency starts to build up, so that is a huge plus, urgency never gets to the point where it was when I was younger where it would be a 'drive' to get you to make finding a partner priority number one, if you know what I mean

I hate cialis and viagra too, it makes a difference for sure though, and I dont think that I would be anywhere near confident enough to get with a new woman without it though

I notice some guys that I know that are in their 40s and even 50s that are natural, out of shape, eat poorly and everything and are total horndogs going to hookers and hitting on girls all the time... strange how that works, so I don't know what 'normal' really is when you think about it. Normal is impossible to define.

[BigAk]

Hey Chap.... Glad to hear that you're doing well.

I've been off everything since I started my recovery a year ago in July. I've been meaning to write an update on my journal.

I feel like I've recovered in all aspects including my libido etc... However, I've been having one issue that I've PM'd you about.

I have not done bloodwork since last year, but I feel like as long as I'm doing alright, there's no need for it.

[BigAk]

Chap... I tried to PM you but couldn't.. You need to clear some of your old PM's
msg:
chap has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

[hackskii]

Cialis wont do anything for libido.
But, I did notice MTII worked pretty damn well for libido.
I think there is the isolated peptide called PT-121
I have not tried that nor do I know where it can be purchased but my guess would be a research chem site.
Sub-Q

[chap]

Originally Posted by BigAk

Chap... I tried to PM you but couldn't.. You need to clear some of your old PM's
msg:
chap has exceeded their stored private messages quota and can not accept further messages until they clear some space.

sorry, I got so many it was hard to sort through whch to get rid of

Hope you got my pm back the other day, I was going to expand on it some more when I got time

[chap]

update...

time sure flies, been almost 6 mths since last update

well, I pretty much stopped all experiments with anything, I have selegeline, cabaser, nolva, clomid, arimidex, letrozole, test, sitting in my desk, but I refused to take any of it..... I kind of resigned myself to try to wait out the natural thing....

definitely many days of lows where I would go a week or two and hardly even think about sex, and then there were times where I could think my way into wanting it, but no real hunger.... so I kind of resigned myself to thinking that maybe my youthful days are just over and I could keep myself busy with lots of things when not worrying about libido..... but amazingly, in the last month or so, things have all of the sudden started to improve, where morning wood started again more often, and an urge was starting to become an often thing..... it's been so long, but being 100% natural now, it is finally starting to impress me in the possibilties, I don't feel like I am 25 again, but I feel like I did when I was 35 and better than I felt when I was 39.... quality of sex is really really good, the best it has been in 10 years as far as orgasm quality

so I am amazed that I am seeing improvements sooooo long after this journey started, especially when I didn't expect it.... so for me anyways, patience has paid off (for me I would say it can be a multiple years 'restart', once things get out of whack, even doing all the 'correct' protocals... it has taken my body years to really normalize and I'm excited to think that there is still more improvement to come)

[chap]

update.......

went a double last night, two good orgasms within 6 hours, that impressed me because that was something I haven't done much since I was in my early 30s

still on nothing, other than one thing that might be of interest.... I have had some exczema on my skin, so used some hydrocortisone cream (which works really well to cure it) and I wonder if the hydrocortisone may have had a positive influence on my libido, as it has been a little better than usual lately

[1cc]

Originally Posted by chap

update.......

went a double last night, two good orgasms within 6 hours, that impressed me because that was something I haven't done much since I was in my early 30s

still on nothing, other than one thing that might be of interest.... I have had some exczema on my skin, so used some hydrocortisone cream (which works really well to cure it) and I wonder if the hydrocortisone may have had a positive influence on my libido, as it has been a little better than usual lately

I think you would have to use quite a lot of cream to have an effect. So it is very unlikely that the cream would cause this. Being relaxed however would help, and since exzema is many times stress related, then perhaps you were more relaxed than usual.

[chap]

still doing great

age: mid 40s

able to have sex once per day (two on a real good day... but that takes alot)

function and orgasm quality is excellent

a little bit of ab fat covering what used to be a six pack, but that has to be normal for my age, still work out alot and eat well so I am in good shape

take a tribulus etc mix once in awhile, and very small dose of cialis every 4 or 5 days (break a pill into quarters or smaller so very small dose seems to work with no sides), and good multivitamins, that's it

[thenxtgrt1]

Originally Posted by chap

still doing great

age: mid 40s

able to have sex once per day (two on a real good day... but that takes alot)

function and orgasm quality is excellent

a little bit of ab fat covering what used to be a six pack, but that has to be normal for my age, still work out alot and eat well so I am in good shape

take a tribulus etc mix once in awhile, and very small dose of cialis every 4 or 5 days (break a pill into quarters or smaller so very small dose seems to work with no sides), and good multivitamins, that's it

chap...how long were you off HRT when you began clomid/nolva combo?

[chap]

remembering back, it was a few weeks off of any test and within a week of hcg only

[chap]

feel pretty good health wise

no strong desire, can function once a day or so but no real pressing urge, can take it or leave it and no real urge to go out and work for it anymore (ie. getting too lazy to chase after women lately, maybe normal for mid 40's?)

started a very small dose of selegeline the last few days, will see how that goes

[HeadDoc]

thanks for following up on this Chap.

[MuscleBound1337]

Did you ever run that bloodwork chap?