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Old 07-10-2008, 07:51 PM
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Very interesting replies as I had thought at first the guy was a total quack but at least now some of his information makes some sense.

Clloyd,

How long did you take Dr Lins supplements for and also at what dose? Did it help refractory time at all ?

POIS sufferers have really bad refractory times ranging from 1-30 days. At its worst it would take 4-5 days after ejaculation just too get a morning semi erection or any erection but other POIS sufferers have had worse timeframes.

I have no idea what caused POIS as I never touched any steroids and avoided precription drugs and antibioctics even if i got ill. Drank for only a couple of years in the weekends during late teens which is quite normal. Trained just about everyday, ate quite healthy and had an awesome social life with many friends and relationships.

Now no friends, no social life and havent had a GF in 6 years and Iam aged only 24 but sometimes feel like 70.

The strange thing about Lin mentioning overmasturabtion can cause long term problems is that I did start masturbating at age 12, 2-3 times a day till around age 16.

I would think that rate is quite normal but maybe bit early so I always wonder what could of caused Post orgasmic illness syndrome .. hmm
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Old 07-10-2008, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Dopamine Norepinephrine conversion

I took 1-2 Viagrowth a day and 1-2 arginox.If I took 2 Viagrowth I had amazing refractory time...10 minutes, Too bad my wife didn't want it I seems to have some detox benefits...I think being on SSRI's I wasn't getting to full benefit. I was also taking 1000mg of Fish oil 3 times a day....this was crucial. The only thing I didn't like about his products since they have yohimbe is that if I drank alcohol, I would be kinda hungover the next morning. I masturbated at an early age but not that frequently.
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Old 07-23-2008, 04:27 PM
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Thanks for this information clloyd.

I was going too try restart his products again but I caught Lin out in our email exchanges :

I first asked if his products will work for everybody who has POIS or sexual exhaustion?

He replied Yes.

I then asked him " What of his products could lower SHBG levels and lower
Cortisol " ?

He replied "all of them for Shbg and Detoxia and 5htp too lower Cortisol".

I then replied with " My Shbg levels tested the last 2 years have been
18 - 12 - 52 and then 16 15 - 48 recently. Taking anything that lowers Shbg levels like fish oil, Nettle root etc makes me very fatigued and need too sleep a few hours after taking it. I then asked him if he would still recommend his products too me even though my Shbg levels are low.

He replied with " Your liver has been severely damaged and nothing can help you".

Hes half right my liver is damaged but ofc there are many things that can help a damaged liver like :

Milk thistle extracts
Choline(Really helpful for fatty liver)
Red yeest rice
samE
Hawthorn Berry
Celery
Vitamin B6+12

Improved diet, more raw vegetables, lots of water, more fibre too improve digestion which then lessens the load on the liver, no fatty fried food etc

Lin obviously didnt want too spend any more time as he knew he would not be making any profit from myself.

I tried taking fish oils but a couple of hours after taking them it seemed too make me tired and needed a long nap. I think it could of been lowering my Shbg levels even more.
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