Drugs or supps that can stimulate the body's own T production

[SprintR]

I'm guessing the answer to this question will be no, but just to be sure, are there any drugs or supplements capable of stimulating the body's own production of testosterone? I'm aware of tribulus, horny goat weed and ZMA, but most of the feedback i've received on these products has been negative.
I remember reading a few years ago that they were working on a drug that could trick the body into thinking that it's not producing enough testosterone, and consequently increase its own production. Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks.

[HeadDoc]

hormonally, there just doen't seem to be any "free lunch", If you intervene on one thing, then another is affected which in turn will ultimately provide some rebound effect on the first. There are alot of things that will raise testosterone for a brief period and then this rebound effect sets in. Then you may find yourself further behind then you were in the first place. This is a generalization. If you have a specific drug or supplement in mind, toss it out. Invariablly, someone here has tried it and can talk about it.

[AcuDoc]

what are your thoughts on ATD a.ka. Rebound XT, Ultra Hot, ect. to boost test levels long term?

People report rather large increases in test levels without driving estrogen to far down even though it's a steroidal AI. Also because of it being a steroidal AI it doesn't seem to harm cholesterol levels like 'dex would.

[cpeil2]

Originally Posted by HeadDoc

hormonally, there just doen't seem to be any "free lunch"

Damn those pesky negative feedback loops!!

[Arnold73]

This is a topic I have been interested in for quite a long time. Very interested in the feedback here.

[stat1951]

I would be interested in the feedback here also.

And would these substances or 6OXO, etc. be a viable alternative to something a mild as DIM or as strong as Arimidex in controlling higher E2 levels in a man already on TRT program but who has rising E2 levels?

[Ash]

This topic is also of great interest to me.

I had some substantial improvements in both libido and strength about 2 years ago, when I was taking a high quality Tribulus/Avena Sativa combination. Back then I was just taking it as a supplement for my weight training and wasn't having any blood tests done. I have no idea what my test levels at the time were.

However I recently had a blood test which showed my testosterone to be below the normal range (a mid afternoon blood test showed 8.3 nmol/L in a range of 9.0 - 30.0). LH was 3.1 IU/L on a range of 1.0 -10.0.

I had a feeling that the low test levels might be related to my diet as I am a vegetarian and have been eating a lot of soy products for a while, especially over the last 4 months. I've also found out that my Zinc levels are low. My first steps in getting my test level up were to drop soy from my diet and to add a Zinc supplement.

After making these changes, my 2nd blood test (2 weeks later) showed levels of 12.3nmol/L and the 3rd test a week later showed 15.4nmol/L. Both of these tests were done at 08H00 though, not in the afternoon.

I started taking a high quality Tribulus tablet about a week ago and will be monitoring my test levels to see if there are any further increases and how long they last.

There are apparently huge differences in the quality of Tribulus available today, so if you are going to take it (or any herbal supplement) try to get the best quality you can.

[SprintR]

what is the highest quality tribulus/avena sativa product on the market?

[JoeyNess]

Tongkat Ali and Pinnacle AnabolX

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Ash

This topic is also of great interest to me.

I had some substantial improvements in both libido and strength about 2 years ago, when I was taking a high quality Tribulus/Avena Sativa combination. Back then I was just taking it as a supplement for my weight training and wasn't having any blood tests done. I have no idea what my test levels at the time were.

However I recently had a blood test which showed my testosterone to be below the normal range (a mid afternoon blood test showed 8.3 nmol/L in a range of 9.0 - 30.0). LH was 3.1 IU/L on a range of 1.0 -10.0.

I had a feeling that the low test levels might be related to my diet as I am a vegetarian and have been eating a lot of soy products for a while, especially over the last 4 months. I've also found out that my Zinc levels are low. My first steps in getting my test level up were to drop soy from my diet and to add a Zinc supplement.

After making these changes, my 2nd blood test (2 weeks later) showed levels of 12.3nmol/L and the 3rd test a week later showed 15.4nmol/L. Both of these tests were done at 08H00 though, not in the afternoon.

I started taking a high quality Tribulus tablet about a week ago and will be monitoring my test levels to see if there are any further increases and how long they last.

There are apparently huge differences in the quality of Tribulus available today, so if you are going to take it (or any herbal supplement) try to get the best quality you can.

I would guess that your stopping Soy and doing Zinc lowered your E2 Estradiol levels and this made your T levels go up.
Phil

[SprintR]

Hey pmgamer,
You mentioned in one of your other posts that there is a hormone that can stimulate the body to produce more testosterone. What is the name of this hormone?
Thanks!