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Old 07-04-2008, 12:08 AM
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Gator8, you mentioned painful knots in your back.
"The muscle knots in my back hurt all the time, as though I've lifted furniture all day long. I have palpable knots in my back that migrate around. I suppose I could "will" or "over react " to pain symptoms, but these knotted muscles produce clusters of painful hard lumps are not imagined or over reaction to pain stimulus. Surgeons have removed such knots in patients in the past, thinking they were the source of pain. (no, not in my instance, but this had been attempted in others because the lumps are real) But the knots are there from autnomic nervous system efferent signals, not from any organic disease in the muscles. These knots are common to MS, which is also recognized to cause aberrant brain signals."

My wife is plagued by chronic muscle pain in the upper back, shoulders and neck regions and appears to consist of palpable spasmatic bundles of muscle fibers, not to the extent of a full muscle cramp, i.e charlie horse, but to a lessor degree of severity. Massage and forceful pressure on the knot(trigger point therapy) helps somewhat. Her neurosurgeon who fused C456 states that is not related to any previous disc degeneration or nerve root compression. This is not the diagnostic pain upon light touch phenomenon. It this the symptom you were refering to?
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:27 AM
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The body will do this when the nerve pathways are damaged or the CNS is rewired to process these signals as priority. Stop breathing a few moments. You will find the autonomic nervous system spring to actdion. And yet, the response is to make you feel short of breath too.

It is not just confusing. It is outright disabling and is not something a victim/sufferer can ignore through choice. There are ways to manage this, such as biofeedback, which can have impressive results by self-regulating the autonomic nervous system. When I was told this advice by a neurologist, I thought he was wrong. I thought, how can I spend the whole day engaged in biofeedback? But he was offering the more important of treatments available. One can learn to subdue the autonomic nervous system. The reduction in pain that follows this autonomic control lasts way longer than the effort or time spent.

Imagine you have a near miss at the RR tracks and how you feel for the next half hour. Now imagine feeling the same way for the rest of the day, but there is no reason except that you are sitting or standing. Picture laying down relieving the distress. What would you do? It is not just confusing. It is disabling. It causes anger, rage, fatigue, confusion, resentment and much more. Choices are fight, flilght or retreat.

I'll give a few of the PubMed references for information and research. You know how to search these since you've been here a while, but if you have trouble locating, please ask.


PMID: 18537652
PMID: 18323769
PMID: 17762849
PMID: 17602995
PMID: 17115100
PMID: 17019257
PMID: 16310717
PMID: 16078360
PMID: 16078359

I still have to find the root article to credit the first researcher who described Fibromyalgia as a Central Pain Syndrome. He is the doctor who got it right. I will post that PMID when I find it.
Thanks for the reading list. Beginning to get a handle on this problem.
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Role of ATP and Mag in Fibro M

The Role of Magnesium in Fibromyalgia.
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Role of ATP and Mag in Fibro M

The Role of Magnesium in Fibromyalgia.
The author certainly appears to have done his homework.
Unfortunately the fact that you are in it for the money taints the whole thing a bit.
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I may be flogging a dead horse but keep an eye out for Lyme Disease too. Lyme is purported to reduce magnesium in the body and the disease can mimic fibro... I have Lyme and it has thrown my once normal endocrine system into a state of chaos. It's more common than one may think and symptoms can manifest in insidious ways....
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The author certainly appears to have done his homework.
Unfortunately the fact that you are in it for the money taints the whole thing a bit.
Bias is a relative thing, Info is INFO
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