First Day on HRT

[Pirate!]

Here is my lab work:

Total T 281 nd/dl
SHBG 25 nmol/l
Free T 69 pg/ml
DHEA 150 ng/dl
Free T4 0.8 ng/dl
TSH 3.79 mIU/l
E2 18 pg/ml
Free T3 265 pg/dl
LH 1.8

Doc prescribed me:

100 mg T/wk
50 mg micronized DHEA/day
Armour Thyroid (low dose)



A few questions:

1) What T levels do people obtain from 100 mg/wk Test Cyp? (and how much will 500 iu/wk hcg affect this?)

2) Is Armour Thyroid worth a damn? The doc says I can use a low dose without shutting down my thyroid. I don't really want to be on thyoid meds for life if I can pull out of this slump.

3) Is micronized DHEA that much better? Is 50 mg first thing in the morning enough? My DHEA levels are pretty damn low. Any recommendations of where to buy this DHEA would be nice, as well.

4) Looks like I've got too much iron. I need a nice iron-free multi. Any suggestions?

Many thanks, bros.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Here is my lab work:

Total T 281 nd/dl
SHBG 25 nmol/l
Free T 69 pg/ml
DHEA 150 ng/dl
Free T4 0.8 ng/dl
TSH 3.79 mIU/l
E2 18 pg/ml
Free T3 265 pg/dl
LH 1.8

Doc prescribed me:

100 mg T/wk
50 mg micronized DHEA/day
Armour Thyroid (low dose)



A few questions:

1) What T levels do people obtain from 100 mg/wk Test Cyp? (and how much will 500 iu/wk hcg affect this?)

2) Is Armour Thyroid worth a damn? The doc says I can use a low dose without shutting down my thyroid. I don't really want to be on thyoid meds for life if I can pull out of this slump.

3) Is micronized DHEA that much better? Is 50 mg first thing in the morning enough? My DHEA levels are pretty damn low. Any recommendations of where to buy this DHEA would be nice, as well.

4) Looks like I've got too much iron. I need a nice iron-free multi. Any suggestions?

Many thanks, bros.

What is your pregnenolone level. If you low,
rather than supplementing with DHEA cream you may use pregnenolone cream
that may raise not only pregnenolone but also DHEA.
It did for me.
If still not enough DHEA, make one cream that have both.
Do not overlook Dermacrine.
http://www.**************************/details.cfm
Check ingredients there.

http://www.**************************/ingredients.cfm

[pmgamer18]

You need to do more testing to find out why your so low. If you go on T meds you can't find out. You could have a low infection, be stressed out or your thyroid is briniging down your levels.

Armour is the best you need to start at a low dose and every 2 weeks up it 15mg. But you also need to check your cortisol levels if they are low this needs to be treated first or the thyroid meds will as you get higher make you feel dam bad. If you have low cortisol levels the thyroid meds stay in your blood you need cortisol to carry the meds into your cells.

Yes thisDHEA is good don't do more the 50mgs it will raise your Estradiol levels. And you should have this checked if high it will make your T levels low.

Just make sure there is no Iron in them get muiti's for men.
Go to this link and read it for your thyroid.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Here is my lab work:

Total T 281 nd/dl
SHBG 25 nmol/l
Free T 69 pg/ml
DHEA 150 ng/dl
Free T4 0.8 ng/dl
TSH 3.79 mIU/l
E2 18 pg/ml
Free T3 265 pg/dl
LH 1.8

Doc prescribed me:

100 mg T/wk
50 mg micronized DHEA/day
Armour Thyroid (low dose)



A few questions:

You need to do more testing to find out why your so low. If you go on T meds you can't find out. You could have a low infection, be stressed out or your thyroid is briniging down your levels.

Armour is the best you need to start at a low dose and every 2 weeks up it 15mg. But you also need to check your cortisol levels if they are low this needs to be treated first or the thyroid meds will as you get higher make you feel dam bad. If you have low cortisol levels the thyroid meds stay in your blood you need cortisol to carry the meds into your cells.

Yes this is good don't do more the 50mgs it will raise your Estradiol levels. And you should have this checked if high it will make your T levels low.

Just make sure there is no Iron in them get muiti's for men.
Go to this link and read it for your thyroid.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/
Many thanks, bros.

[Pirate!]

I did not get pregnalone or cortisol tested. Hypogonadism runs in my family, and it caught up to me quickly (likely exacerbated by steroid use). I know the doc should have, but they were very accomodating, so I just ran with it.

I have had low natural T for years, and the thyroid condition is likely something I can recover from once everything else is balanced out.

I still need to find a trusted supplier of micronized DHEA caps. Dermacrine looks very interesting, but inconvenient. I don't want to risk getting on my pregnant wife at this point, either.

Estradiol is under control, and I've never had problems with extra estrogen from DHEA tabs.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll stick to the docs protocol plus 500 iu hcg/wk for a few months and gets some labs.

[cpeil2]

Originally Posted by Pirate!

4) Looks like I've got too much iron. I need a nice iron-free multi. Any suggestions?

Many thanks, bros.

I like Pure Encapsulations Nutrient 950 w/o iron.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Pirate!

I did not get pregnalone or cortisol tested. Hypogonadism runs in my family, and it caught up to me quickly (likely exacerbated by steroid use). I know the doc should have, but they were very accomodating, so I just ran with it.

I have had low natural T for years, and the thyroid condition is likely something I can recover from once everything else is balanced out.

I still need to find a trusted supplier of micronized DHEA caps. Dermacrine looks very interesting, but inconvenient. I don't want to risk getting on my pregnant wife at this point, either.

Estradiol is under control, and I've never had problems with extra estrogen from DHEA tabs.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll stick to the docs protocol plus 500 iu hcg/wk for a few months and gets some labs.

You may want to keep this as future info.
womensinternational.com

You can get from them creams with following ingredients:
Testosterone
pregnenolone
DHEA
Chrysin
Those creams can be either individual or combined.
Eventually I will go for some kind of combined cream,
but at the moment I am using two individual creams
100mg/1gram testosterone cream, apply 2grams/day
100mg/1gram pregnenolone cream, apply 1gram/day

I apply cream to both of my calfs with provided dosing spoon and tip of my index finger, I then rub my calfs against each other, 10-20 min latter I put pants on.

[Pirate!]

I'll open my mind up to the creams.

For the vitamin, I went with Doctor's Choice for Men.

And I got some MRM micronized DHEA because that is what I could get locally. I hope MRM can be trusted to provide good DHEA.