Got my Testosterone level back, 15 months after all steroids stopped

[Ronin_]

Ok I have not used steroids in 15 months - this was an attempt at TRT using 125mg of test myself, which I used for about 5 weeks only and sent me above normal ranges.

It has been 27 months since Ive actually done a proper cycle - which was very heavy - 15 weeks, 1500mg test, 600mg deca etc.

a year ago ( ie about 3 months after stopping the "TRT" ) my testosterone levels were:

2.1 the range = 8.4 - 28.7. - ifelt pretty bad on this no libido

As of today a year later clean of gear, the total testosterone came back at 12.7 on the same range of 8.4 - 28.7.

So while my levels arent very bad, they are quite poor. My libido is reasonable, I have sex once or twice everyday.

What can be done to get it into a higher range other that TRT etc, as I dont want to go onto test shots, HCG etc..

I am dieting also with about 20% calories from fats, but low calories about 2500 so i figure this would lower things. I havent drank at all in 4 weeks also which must have a positive effect.

I was thinking a nolvadex protocol perhaps? Clomid gives me eye tracers so i want to avoid this.

5 years ago - when i was 23 and had not used steroids in 5 years (and only twice brifely when i was 18) my testosterone levels were 27 on the 8.4 - 28.7 scale, so maybe I just need to wait a little longer for things to get back to normal?

[toc67guru]

ronin clear some of your pm's.
i tried to send you one but am not able to.

[Ronin_]

All cleared bro, please send again

[SWALE]

Having sex "once or twice each day" is not "reasonable". You guys set the bar too high sometimes.

As we have posted here many times, unfortunately, SERM-class drugs simply do not work as "TRT". I do not understand the reasoning, though: you do not want to do good 'ol testosterone, but do want to use other meds, with many other effects, or questionable herbal supplements, etc.?

[Ronin_]

Swale i have nothing against testosterone, it's just id like to keep my natural system running rather than go onto TRT.

Im not clear if i understand your setting bar too high comment - what i meant is with my current libido on 12.7 testosterone, i want to or have sex once or twice a day. So you are saying thats a good libido?

I do think my libido's good at the moment actually, and on the plus side i figure ill lose my hair alot slower having modest T levels rather than high ones, but are there any health concerns with modest T, as apposed to hypogonadal T where i know there are health problems? Cheers bro

[Millard Baker]

Originally Posted by Ronin_

i want to or have sex once or twice a day. So you are saying thats a good libido?

Bro, there is a big difference between wanting to have sex 1-2/day and having sex 1-2/day.

Actually having sex 1-2/day with yourself or others is pretty great.

But only "wanting" it about 1-2/day... not so great.

[SWALE-Follower]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Having sex "once or twice each day" is not "reasonable". You guys set the bar too high sometimes.

LOL... I was thinking the same thing actually... I thought that was a typo!!!!

[Ronin_]

Originally Posted by administrator

Bro, there is a big difference between wanting to have sex 1-2/day and having sex 1-2/day.

Actually having sex 1-2/day with yourself or others is pretty great.

But only "wanting" it about 1-2/day... not so great.

LOL well it's either with myself or with my regular GF or a fuck buddy, either way Im busting one out once or twice a day.

[Kroms_laugh]

Once or twice a day... reasonable?!

Once or twice a fortnight is a personal blessing, for me, from the guy who created the Earth in 7 days.

I agree with Swale that your standards are far to high.

[SWALE]

Ya, when do you find time to work?

[Kroms_laugh]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Ya, when do you find time to work?

Bump to this! lol

[Ronin_]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Ya, when do you find time to work?

lol work hard, play hard dude

[SWALE]

Well then, you must be putting in 16 hour days!

If you wanted to do that, you might as well have gone into medicine.

[Kroms_laugh]

Originally Posted by SWALE

If you wanted to do that, you might as well have gone into medicine.

ROFL! My sister-in-law is coming to live with my wife and I while she gets her phd from KUMed. I told her that she should talk to you before making the decision to be in the medical field. lol

[SWALE]

I speak of how other doctor's live their lives. I am never on call, do not have to fight with insurance companies, etc. That makes all the difference in the world as far as QOL goes. But I have had to scratch and claw to survive, and sacrificed much to make it this way. And we are no where near out of the woods yet.