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Old 12-08-2007, 03:10 PM
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I was just wondering if anyone has tried the otc hc cream to treat there adrenals? I know 1/4 tsp=10 mg hc from the 1% cream. I still a bit leery on having to rely on an online source for the cortef. if the over the counter cream can work that would be my first attempt.,,, has anyone had good results from the cream?
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Keep in mind that absorbtion is less than 100%. I estimate no more than 40%. Having said that, because I am in a state where Customs/Homeland Security can inspect and confiscate everything, I often use HC cream for cortisol replacement. I do 1/2 tsp on wake, another at noon, one more at 4-5PM and 1/4tsp before bed. This has been working very well for me. Also, this is very handy if you are too sick to swallow and keep down pills.
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I think the 1/4 tsp = 10mg is off anyways....as I think the second poster's reply seemed to indicate.

But even then, we never really know and thats why I think its problematic to rely on it (unless thats all you ever use and you know how to judge). Also, does anyone know the absorbtion rate and how quick it kicks in?

I usually use a little, never really estimate how much prior to working out...rub it in inner thigh and then go to it. Not even sure if its in the head or actually working but i like it.
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I can usually feel it working within 15 minutes if I am taking a non-scheduled extra dose. I also think that it lasts a little longer than Cortef, but not as long as prednisone.
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Keep in mind that absorbtion is less than 100%. I estimate no more than 40%. Having said that, because I am in a state where Customs/Homeland Security can inspect and confiscate everything, I often use HC cream for cortisol replacement. I do 1/2 tsp on wake, another at noon, one more at 4-5PM and 1/4tsp before bed. This has been working very well for me. Also, this is very handy if you are too sick to swallow and keep down pills.
sounds good. I'll probably try the cream if the isocort doesnt do anything. of course I need to get my saliva test results first before I even start that. thanks for the replies
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Yes, get tested. The reason why I am on replacement HC is a poor response to an ACTH stim test. It is amazing how the endo paid no mind to the fact that my post stim number was no more than 10 points above my base reading.
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Yes, get tested. The reason why I am on replacement HC is a poor response to an ACTH stim test. It is amazing how the endo paid no mind to the fact that my post stim number was no more than 10 points above my base reading.
yea,,,its amazing how so many of these docs just still cant catch on by now. I can only imagine how many poor people are wasting their many on antidepressants and such when its adrenal fatigue thats causing the problems
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What really gets me is unlike most of the forum members, I did look sick. years of adrenal insufficiency and hypogonadism left me with muscle wasting and emaciation. Come on, how many 120 lb men do you Know? That was how much I weighed before going on TRT and replacement cortisol. Now I am 130 and slowly putting on more.
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Keep in mind that absorbtion is less than 100%. I estimate no more than 40%. Having said that, because I am in a state where Customs/Homeland Security can inspect and confiscate everything, I often use HC cream for cortisol replacement. I do 1/2 tsp on wake, another at noon, one more at 4-5PM and 1/4tsp before bed. This has been working very well for me. Also, this is very handy if you are too sick to swallow and keep down pills.
Some years ago when I figured out that I will not make any progress staying in my homeland Poland, I said good by and migrated to USA. My granfather used to live here.
Migration for me entailed tons of technicalities on top of missing my family and friends.

I newer looked back, that was very good move.

Is it possible you could move to mainland USA, at least you would not have to deal with Customs/Homeland Security in Hawai.
In your situation that may be major improvement.
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Some years ago when I figured out that I will not make any progress staying in my homeland Poland, I said good by and migrated to USA. My granfather used to live here.
Migration for me entailed tons of technicalities on top of missing my family and friends.

I newer looked back, that was very good move.

Is it possible you could move to mainland USA, at least you would not have to deal with Customs/Homeland Security in Hawai.
In your situation that may be major improvement.

They do it on the mainland, too. It is just easier for them to do it in Hawaii.
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