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Old 02-16-2006, 04:09 PM
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i have been of test cyp for over 2 weeks and have been using hcg at 250iu every other day. monday i start 20mgs of nolvadex and continue hcg for 1 more week and then continue with just nolva for anther week. why am i taking time off from trt? i just feel better doing that. as for the hcg,my libdo is through the roof,more so then when doingh T. I believe when the testes are stimulated,there is a sensitivity there that testosterone just does'nt do.when doing T alone,after a while my libdo is still fine but i am just not as sensitive in my genital area due to the little bit of atrophy. hcg is extrmely important.
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keep us posted on your results!

I am considering tapering down off of the exo test and maybe going the AI or serm route too, so I am very interested in your experiments.

with the every 2 day hcg, are you not seeing big fluctuations in libido though from hour to hour?

are you on any AI?

so you haven't started nolva yet until this monday right?
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mxim,

I had the same results when I started HCG. Before that I had tried several methods of T replacement and could drive up my lab numbers but I never felt much better. Also doing just T, my testicles felt like they were in the "dead zone"...just not much feeling there. Once I started HCG, the sensitivity came back and had a much more pleasurable feeling. My original dose of HCG was too high and threw my E2 out of wack so I have had to adjust the dosage as I feel the need.
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i have been of test cyp for over 2 weeks and have been using hcg at 250iu every other day. monday i start 20mgs of nolvadex and continue hcg for 1 more week and then continue with just nolva for anther week. why am i taking time off from trt? i just feel better doing that. as for the hcg,my libdo is through the roof,more so then when doingh T. I believe when the testes are stimulated,there is a sensitivity there that testosterone just does'nt do.when doing T alone,after a while my libdo is still fine but i am just not as sensitive in my genital area due to the little bit of atrophy. hcg is extrmely important.
Mxim are you secondary.
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yes,i am secondary. low LH and FSH.
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Interesting. I am also secondary. When I was on daily hcg only, my libido was "through the roof" for about two weeks, then sunk and I was unhappy for a couple months thereafter. I though hcg was "the wonderdrug", but only for those first few weeks.

How long has it been since you made this change? It would be interesting to know if you experience this good feeling long-term.

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probably because your estrogen levels were too elevated.
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probably because your estrogen levels were too elevated.
No doubt about it. Is that what you're taking Nolvadex for?

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no. i am hoping the nolvadex will trigger the release of LH/hence higher T.
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yes,i am secondary. low LH and FSH.

as i understand it, HCG may be all you need because of being secondary.

at least that was the opinion awhile back.
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i have been of test cyp for over 2 weeks and have been using hcg at 250iu every other day. monday i start 20mgs of nolvadex and continue hcg for 1 more week and then continue with just nolva for anther week. why am i taking time off from trt? i just feel better doing that. as for the hcg,my libdo is through the roof,more so then when doingh T. I believe when the testes are stimulated,there is a sensitivity there that testosterone just does'nt do.when doing T alone,after a while my libdo is still fine but i am just not as sensitive in my genital area due to the little bit of atrophy. hcg is extrmely important.
Were you on TRT? If so, why stop?

You sound like you were totally shut down. Why not take your aromstase inhibitor while on TRT. I just started Arimidex, I really don't know why the TRT Clinics make you beg. It works DAM good. I am not a expert by any means, to much Estrogen will mess you up. I am not concerned with to much Testro. I mean staying at the upper end of level 900-1250..
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i have been of test cyp for over 2 weeks and have been using hcg at 250iu every other day. monday i start 20mgs of nolvadex and continue hcg for 1 more week and then continue with just nolva for anther week. why am i taking time off from trt? i just feel better doing that. as for the hcg,my libdo is through the roof,more so then when doingh T. I believe when the testes are stimulated,there is a sensitivity there that testosterone just does'nt do.when doing T alone,after a while my libdo is still fine but i am just not as sensitive in my genital area due to the little bit of atrophy. hcg is extrmely important.

Any update? Are you still doing great 4 weeks later? Did the addition nolvadex have any effect?

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