How Can My Levels Be Low But I Can Grow A Beard?

[KidCapriB]

3 Days, full beard for the most part...but levels are low...makes no sense to me

[love_en]

Very easy. If you were born with the correct androgen receptors, even low levels of T/DHT will do it. I had to argue this crap with an endo last year. I look like a skid row bum if I don't shave for 2 days. By 2 in the afternoon, I have a 5 o'clock shadow. BTW, I am Asian as well. But on that basis, I was told that I could not possibly be hypogonadal. It does not take much T to make a person hairy if the genetics are there.

[Andrew Androgen]

Hey love_en, you should keep that unshaven look coz most women find it extremely sexy!

[muscleintraining]

I've got low T and, even before TRT, have hair everywhere. I was actually surprised to learn my T was so low (177 on Quest's scale).

[Cynical Simian]

Interesting. I had wondered about this as well but never went to the trouble to do any research on it.

[keaster]

Now with T in the normal range, I still cant grow a beard. Thats on Androgel and HCG.

[love_en]

Originally Posted by Andrew Androgen

Hey love_en, you should keep that unshaven look coz most women find it extremely sexy!

Thanks, Andrew. People who have not seen me for a while say I look different, yet they cannot put their finger on it. Now that I am on TRT, it grows even faster. Just for giggles, if I do not have to leave the house over the weekend, I let it grow. It does look good, but by Sunday it is a little itchy. BTW, as of October, I have been on 250 mg enanthate per week. I plan to stay on that for 18 months to see if I can get past Tanner IV. So far, lost a lot more fat. I can see veins on my arms. Muscles are harder. This is all happening without me eating nothing but chicken breast and oats or spending an hour a day in the gym. More horny than I was at age 16. Fall asleep with wood, wake with wood. Sometimes it is almost painful. Never experienced that until going on TRT. Not to say it is all good. I now have to take 0.625mg Femara twice a week to keep the E2 down.

[theman24]

i still cant grow a full beard at the age of 24! i can get fluffy sideburns thats looks stupid,does this mean i have ruined androgen receptors? how do you get the receptors tested and if there was something wrong with them how could i get it treated?

[Cynical Simian]

Originally Posted by love_en

Thanks, Andrew. People who have not seen me for a while say I look different, yet they cannot put their finger on it. Now that I am on TRT, it grows even faster. Just for giggles, if I do not have to leave the house over the weekend, I let it grow. It does look good, but by Sunday it is a little itchy. BTW, as of October, I have been on 250 mg enanthate per week. I plan to stay on that for 18 months to see if I can get past Tanner IV. So far, lost a lot more fat. I can see veins on my arms. Muscles are harder. This is all happening without me eating nothing but chicken breast and oats or spending an hour a day in the gym. More horny than I was at age 16. Fall asleep with wood, wake with wood. Sometimes it is almost painful. Never experienced that until going on TRT. Not to say it is all good. I now have to take 0.625mg Femara twice a week to keep the E2 down.

You're self-treating, correct? How far above the top of the normal range are your levels with that dosage?

[Andrew Androgen]

Originally Posted by love_en

Thanks, Andrew. People who have not seen me for a while say I look different, yet they cannot put their finger on it. Now that I am on TRT, it grows even faster. Just for giggles, if I do not have to leave the house over the weekend, I let it grow. It does look good, but by Sunday it is a little itchy. BTW, as of October, I have been on 250 mg enanthate per week. I plan to stay on that for 18 months to see if I can get past Tanner IV. So far, lost a lot more fat. I can see veins on my arms. Muscles are harder. This is all happening without me eating nothing but chicken breast and oats or spending an hour a day in the gym. More horny than I was at age 16. Fall asleep with wood, wake with wood. Sometimes it is almost painful. Never experienced that until going on TRT. Not to say it is all good. I now have to take 0.625mg Femara twice a week to keep the E2 down.

If you did a couple of short cycles of dbol or something like that, I'm sure you would be even happier with the way your body looks. Just run it for around 4 weeks. Side effects will be minimal.

[lou123]

Originally Posted by love_en

Thanks, Andrew. People who have not seen me for a while say I look different, yet they cannot put their finger on it. Now that I am on TRT, it grows even faster. Just for giggles, if I do not have to leave the house over the weekend, I let it grow. It does look good, but by Sunday it is a little itchy. BTW, as of October, I have been on 250 mg enanthate per week. I plan to stay on that for 18 months to see if I can get past Tanner IV. So far, lost a lot more fat. I can see veins on my arms. Muscles are harder. This is all happening without me eating nothing but chicken breast and oats or spending an hour a day in the gym. More horny than I was at age 16. Fall asleep with wood, wake with wood. Sometimes it is almost painful. Never experienced that until going on TRT. Not to say it is all good. I now have to take 0.625mg Femara twice a week to keep the E2 down.

Since your T level is probably around 1500 ng and you are using T in a low steroid dose I would expect you to have all those things happening

[love_en]

Originally Posted by Andrew Androgen

If you did a couple of short cycles of dbol or something like that, I'm sure you would be even happier with the way your body looks. Just run it for around 4 weeks. Side effects will be minimal.

Call me a pussy, but I am not enthusiastic about anything going through my liver. Having said that, I am very happy with what I am seeing. Considering that for all of my life, I am doing nothing different other than bringing my testosterone levels up to where they should be or a little more. lou123 thinks I am at least 1500 right now. Which I do not think is excessive. Depending on which lab does the test, 1500 can be the top of the reference range. I would love to meet the man who scored that naturally. I can imagine what hell the guy who scored the bottom of range lives with.

I know some boys who fooled with Dianabol for cosmetic purposes or to put on weight for sports. They are lucky it had no adverse effect on them. But if the dosage was low and the cycle short, that is possible. I am not afraid of needles. It did not bother me to inject myself for the first time in 2005. If anything, I have an aversion to pills. EQ is much more appealing to me. I know Deca is prescribed to reverse catabolism and for treatment resistant anemia. That first prescribing indication is an admission it does what so many juicers says it does. Even in my condition, the possibility of me getting a prescription for that is zero. I also have almost no possiblity of getting a doctor to put me on TRT unless I travel great distances. Dr John is not exactly a 6 hour drive away.

[love_en]

Originally Posted by lou123

Since your T level is probably around 1500 ng and you are using T in a low steroid dose I would expect you to have all those things happening

All the things I missed out on as a teenager.