Hrt sucks!

[chap]

Sorry, just frustrated.

I'm a single, good looking guy, still in the dating market and hrt and unreliable libido is making me insane and wrecking my confidence. Here I am and libido has gone downhill again and it's a saturday night, so I was going to go out but now why bother.

Having the "once or twice" a week hrt libido might be ok for the older guys that are already in a relationship, but for the single guy that might hook up with a girl and nerves are going a bit it is a big problem to not be extremely "turned on". I've tried the e2 control and all that, it is just not anywhere near as easy and reliable as it would have to be, sure its easy to figure out to be just 'functional', but to be a successful single guy you need to be a bit more than functional.

I wish there was a reliable formula to get back to the strong libido I remember having not even 10 years ago. I think when I was natural but low test at least my libido was semi-reliable, and with viagra it was a sure thing, now on hrt cialis doesn't work half the time when you need it to. I'm thinking there is no hope for good, constant, reliable libido when on long term test. Something important is missing, whether it is the pulsatile LH release, or FSH, or something.

I'm thinking seriously of getting back off and trying serms or anything, hoping to regain what I took for granted not too long ago.

Anyone else thinking the same way I am?

[novice]

Yeah me, 27yrs old but had problems prior to therapy with mild ED and lagging libido due to a year long test cycle. I have a steady gf so the pressure isnt as great on me as you bro. Are you doing a reasonable dose, i.e. 100-150mg per week and considering dosing every 3days....oh and i think the everyday thing is a bit over the top bro, using HCG in at a reasobable dose, for me i.e. nothing greater than 70iu daily (100iu and i'm impotent), and arimidex if needed at a reasonable dose, like .25-.5 on shot day or similar. I have yet to get my program perfect but seems alot of guys on the site have. There are other meds that may be considered for me down the road too, such as HGH which support sexual function. Also with your new energy, try supporting libido with lots of cardio. Eat right, get good sleep, and enjoy life.

[chap]

Similar story here, but I did multiple cycles.

I used to have over the top libido, so that is what makes it even harder to cope with, I used to need to ejaculate at least once a day just to keep from going crazy with desire, now I could go weeks without even thinking about it much.

I am doing about 150mg a week of test (shot ed), and trying to keep the hcg down too as it seems to hurt libido more than it helps, and I am still tinkering with armidex, as it seems like my libido is best when I do lots but start to get dry skin so I back off again but then libido disappears again. It is so difficult and it seems to me that even the guys on here that "have it right" aren't talking much of the extreme desire that many natural guys take for granted.

I am starting to not believe that extreme success is even a possibility with hrt, unfortunately once you are screwed up even a half-good libido is better than none I guess.

[dano79]

Here Here, being young and putting up with this crap sucks big time!

[Krembles]

Originally Posted by chap

Sorry, just frustrated.

I'm a single, good looking guy, still in the dating market and hrt and unreliable libido is making me insane and wrecking my confidence. Here I am and libido has gone downhill again and it's a saturday night, so I was going to go out but now why bother.

Having the "once or twice" a week hrt libido might be ok for the older guys that are already in a relationship, but for the single guy that might hook up with a girl and nerves are going a bit it is a big problem to not be extremely "turned on". I've tried the e2 control and all that, it is just not anywhere near as easy and reliable as it would have to be, sure its easy to figure out to be just 'functional', but to be a successful single guy you need to be a bit more than functional.

I wish there was a reliable formula to get back to the strong libido I remember having not even 10 years ago. I think when I was natural but low test at least my libido was semi-reliable, and with viagra it was a sure thing, now on hrt cialis doesn't work half the time when you need it to. I'm thinking there is no hope for good, constant, reliable libido when on long term test. Something important is missing, whether it is the pulsatile LH release, or FSH, or something.

I'm thinking seriously of getting back off and trying serms or anything, hoping to regain what I took for granted not too long ago.

Anyone else thinking the same way I am?

Sorry for you problem. Maybe HRT is not for every body. Did you somke cigaretts? Really hard to believe. Maybe to much estrogen. Take -Arimidex-
It will get your boys out of hiding. Inscrese your testro and you most likely yor will have to beat the bitches off. Maybe a little DHEA after you start an aromatase inhibitor.

[HeadDoc]

is this they way you guys are saying that "more" in not better. Well, hallelulia. And it's not even Sunday morning!

[chap]

I don't think it is just me or that it is really hard to believe.

Read this forum for the last few months. Continual threads on people complaining of poor libido, dysfunctional libido, unreliable libido. I don't see any threads of guys on hrt complaining that they have a sore right arm from masturbating so much because their libido is so strong.

Some guys are happy because they started from such a point of ill health that hrt has saved their lives and gave them a workable libido with their wives.

I still think that there is something missing from the puzzle, or perhaps hrt is a catch 22, increased test but decrease of something in the brain that controls libido, so you are left with more test, e2 and prolactin can be ok, yet libido is worse than when you were natural with less test.

[GymJim]

Maybe I am lucky, but I can say that for me as a single guy TRT has been a blessing and fixed my libido very effectively. I had a lessoning of libido and frequent E.D. at 35 years old over one year ago and and as a single guy dating, my relationships also suffered as a result. Since I got on 10% testosterone carbopol based gel however my serum test levels went up over a a couple of hundred points, my libido is higher and my erections are very stiff and powerful and easy to maintain with minimal stimulation which wasn't the case before. I now have frequent morning wood and great sexual performance. I am sure that it helps that I now work out and eat a very healthy diet and do cardio every week. But the compounded testoserone gel alone for this past year or so, (no hcg yet or anything else) has done wonders for me. The only slight negs are that my ejaculation seems to be somewhat smaller and clumpier than before (just a little) and my already significant hair loss has accelerated substantially.

[chap]

Interesting that you say that, as it reminded me that I had some good results with gel before too, that I seem to have more problems with injectable. It didn't keep working for me though, so I thought injections would solve things, but it has been a rollercoaster ride ever since.

[Mmartin]

i had an amazing, fantastic, ever-ready libido 3 years ago, and then i started experiencing all these problems. HRT gives me back my libido maybe once every 3 months for ~1-3days. i just can't seem to find a balance with my hormones. HCG makes me groggy, grumpy and foggy, even at a low dose (100iu on the two days before my shot).

at the age of 20 i'm fucked up, and before HRT i had never encountered an exogenous source of testosterone.
fuck i hate this.

[chap]

I can get it up every day, sometimes it takes a minute or so, get morning wood every morning, but there is one major thing that is missing......... desire.

It is functional, but there is no big urge that was a big part of my libido when I was natural. On hrt I can take it or leave it, no buildup, no sexual tension, none of that stuff that gives a man strong drive and a purpose. I can go a week easily without ejaculating if I want and it is no challenge at all.... when I was natural and had good libido, I'd start to go nuts with desire by the second or third day, and a week would be complete torture.

What is it about hrt that turns off the URGENT DESIRE function of the libido?

The big problem too is when you are just functional but not strongly driven, nerves and distraction can easily take over from function, and booze is a complete killer.... when I was natural my desire was easily strong enough to overcome a couple of drinks, nerves, all that stuff.

[novice]

Yeah same here. Before I ever touched steroids my libido was incredable. The only thing I thought about was getting pussy. No ED whatsoever. I know what you mean about the drinking, or if I take anything that isnt prosexual, my sexual function is gone. Now before TRT, even with a few drinks and I was still ok most of the time. Now sexual function is a little worse. I had a strong libido from gels at first but then it just disappeared over night. Having sex few times a day, and no ED for a couple of weeks on gel. Then suddenly no desire and ED. I have read that this has happened to alot of other guys, not sure the reason. Has anyone tried just HCG and clomid maybe? If so, how was libido?

[Matt Muscle]

Have you really listened to anyone here when they say your on too much testosterone??
How old are you Chap?

[BigRagu]

Originally Posted by chap

I don't think it is just me or that it is really hard to believe.

Read this forum for the last few months. Continual threads on people complaining of poor libido, dysfunctional libido, unreliable libido. I don't see any threads of guys on hrt complaining that they have a sore right arm from masturbating so much because their libido is so strong.

Some guys are happy because they started from such a point of ill health that hrt has saved their lives and gave them a workable libido with their wives.

I still think that there is something missing from the puzzle, or perhaps hrt is a catch 22, increased test but decrease of something in the brain that controls libido, so you are left with more test, e2 and prolactin can be ok, yet libido is worse than when you were natural with less test.

i will say this.... u stick a hot girl in front of me and my sh!t gets hard as a rock and works just how it's supposed to ........ i have been on hrt for a year and not 1 complaint yet

[kidsxx5]

Have you ever tried HCG? All the T in the world didn't seem to do a thing for my libido. Once I added HCG it seemed to trigger something that brought the desire back.