HRT vs. MPB

[James]

I'd like to hear the various thoughts/experiences are on this issue from MESO-Rx members.

I'm having trouble figuring out how I'm going to balance HRT and MPB at the same time. Naturally, with my low T, I won't lose much hair. On HRT, it falls out pretty damn quick.

If raising T means producing more DHT, and DHT is a leading cause of alcopecia, doesn't higher tesosterone equate to less hair? (In men who are genetically prone to MBP, that is.)

I wanted to use a DHT blocker like Propecia. Everyone says it's bad, but how bad? Will inhibiting DHT prevent me from building muscle? I hear the libido reduction only happens in 2% of users. I don't have a libido, so I have nothing to lose anyway.

I know SWALE reccomends a topical solution to reduce DHT at the scalp, but much of my reading supports that a topical soution is only one key ingredient in a proper hair maintenance regimen for the MPB prone, and that multiple angles of attack are necessary, including a DHT inhibitor.

[mxim]

if you have the gene for mbp,you will lose your hair just as quickly with low T as you will with normal tio high normal T levels. that said,if you have levels that are double the normal range;ie,steroids,you will speed up the process.

[James]

That isn't true according to what's been published on the matter. Your T level does not matter at all -- it's the DHT metabolite that attacks the hair follices. That is why users of DHT inhibiting drugs can stop or even slightly reverse hair loss.

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by James

That isn't true according to what's been published on the matter. Your T level does not matter at all -- it's the DHT metabolite that attacks the hair follices. That is why users of DHT inhibiting drugs can stop or even slightly reverse hair loss.

But in the process of doing this they have stopped or shut down there body from making hormones all kinds of hormones. Hell to day bald is in men with full heads of hair are shaving it off. I have had high DHT from using the Gels and wile trying to keep my E2 down taking Indolplex/DIM I found it lowed my DHT but I stopped using the gels.
I went from being 3x's over the top of the range to the middle of the range.
http://www.lef.org/whatshot/2003_05.html#i3cb
If you want to talk to men that are screawed up from using Propecia go to this link and join. Just click on Forums.
http://www.propeciasideeffects.com/
Phil

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by pmgamer18

Hell to day bald is in men with full heads of hair are shaving it off. Phil

Damn right. At my age I have better things to do with my hormones than grow hair.

[James]

Damn right. At my age I have better things to do with my hormones than grow hair.

How old are you? I'd look like a freak at my age without it. I have the face/body of a 17 year old due to the hormonal problems.

men that are screawed up from using Propecia

I'm a man that is screwed up from exogenous testosterone. Nearly every drug can have serious side effects.

[Sonny]

James: Are you still on the arimidex-only plan? Sounds like that was a step in the right direction?

Sonny

[mranak]

I believe that SWALE sells a topical solution in his office to help with the hair loss. You might be able to get him to sell you some if you promise not to use finasteride. AAS guys have had luck with similar topical solutions as well.

Unfortunately, if you are predisposed to MPB, there is only so much you can do.

[Glaim]

I've always had a young looking face (as in younger than I would like)...how greatly does HRT effect this?

Originally Posted by James

How old are you? I'd look like a freak at my age without it. I have the face/body of a 17 year old due to the hormonal problems.

[SWALE]

Do not take finasteride! I do not wqangt any man to use it. The risk of permanent negative side effects are too high.

A proper topical IS a DHT blocker--right where you need it.

[BigRagu]

i have always been hairless.........ever since starting hrt i get facial hair and some bodyhair now.......uh allllllll the shaving