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When I've speaking with some people who have addison's disease about your energy level. Some have less energy than before disease.

Myself have "adrenal fatigue", may be because I've taking synthroid since 20 year's. Now I take synthroid with armour ans hydrocortisone 20 mg morning and 10 mg in the afternoon.

This strategy help me, but when I have a stress day, or if I train more than half hours I feel exhausted depiste hydrocortisone at 30 mg. I'm not sure that more hydro is better.

My question is to understand if there are a catecholamine deficiency with adrenal fatigue from(medullo, nervous system). ?

In fact, when you read old study who can read "nervous exhaustion". It's look like " I lose my nerve". The belly have a big distension depiste low body fat, you muscle lose power, your brain feel depress...

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My body fat is low but my stomach have a distension ( a symptom of adrenal depletion) too
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When I've speaking with some people who have addison's disease about your energy level. Some have less energy than before disease.

Myself have "adrenal fatigue", may be because I've taking synthroid since 20 year's. Now I take synthroid with armour ans hydrocortisone 20 mg morning and 10 mg in the afternoon.

This strategy help me, but when I have a stress day, or if I train more than half hours I feel exhausted depiste hydrocortisone at 30 mg. I'm not sure that more hydro is better.

My question is to understand if there are a catecholamine deficiency with adrenal fatigue from(medullo, nervous system). ?

In fact, when you read old study who can read "nervous exhaustion". It's look like " I lose my nerve". The belly have a big distension depiste low body fat, you muscle lose power, your brain feel depress...

Thank

My body fat is low but my stomach have a distension ( a symptom of adrenal depletion) too
Hypothyroidism can lead to adrenal fatigue since the brain is forced to use the adrenal glands more often to compensate for the loss of energy due to hypothyroidism.

Using Synthroid in many people does not adequately treat hypothyroidism, resulting in a higher likelihood of developing adrenal fatigue.

In more severe cases of adrenal fatigue, the medulla of the adrenal gland (which makes norepinephrine and epininephrine) can also be depleted, not just the cortex (which makes cortisol, DHEA, progesterone, testosterone, aldosterone, and other steroid hormones).

Hydrocortisone is a miracle in the treatment of adrenal fatigue. However it is a passive treatment.

By "passive", I mean that it does not force the adrenal glands to be better. It only allows the adrenal glands to slow down so that they don't have to work too hard to produce cortisol and other steroid hormones.

Despite treatment with hydrocortisone, if one's stress level is still high or if hypothyroidism is still undertreated, then the adrenal glands can still be overwhelmed by stress.

To maximize the opportunity to recover full adrenal function, one may have to do many things including some of the following:
1. Work on changing one's lifestyle and psychological health to reduce stress levels
2. Take a serotonin-increasing medication to block external stress signals to the adrenal glands.
3. Adequately improve thyroid activity to improve the brain's source of energy - thus reducing reliance on the adrenal glands for energy.
4. Take other supportive substances for the adrenal glands including Vitamin C, Magnesium, etc. such as those listed in James Wilson's book on Adrenal Fatigue.
5. Give the adrenal treatment time to work. For example, it may take 2 or more years for the adrenal glands to recover.
6. Avoid stimulants - which increase norepinephrine - which worsens the stress to the adrenal glands.
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Hypothyroidism can lead to adrenal fatigue since the brain is forced to use the adrenal glands more often to compensate for the loss of energy due to hypothyroidism.

Using Synthroid in many people does not adequately treat hypothyroidism, resulting in a higher likelihood of developing adrenal fatigue.

In more severe cases of adrenal fatigue, the medulla of the adrenal gland (which makes norepinephrine and epininephrine) can also be depleted, not just the cortex (which makes cortisol, DHEA, progesterone, testosterone, aldosterone, and other steroid hormones).

Hydrocortisone is a miracle in the treatment of adrenal fatigue. However it is a passive treatment.

By "passive", I mean that it does not force the adrenal glands to be better. It only allows the adrenal glands to slow down so that they don't have to work too hard to produce cortisol and other steroid hormones.

Despite treatment with hydrocortisone, if one's stress level is still high or if hypothyroidism is still undertreated, then the adrenal glands can still be overwhelmed by stress.

To maximize the opportunity to recover full adrenal function, one may have to do many things including some of the following:
1. Work on changing one's lifestyle and psychological health to reduce stress levels
2. Take a serotonin-increasing medication to block external stress signals to the adrenal glands.
3. Adequately improve thyroid activity to improve the brain's source of energy - thus reducing reliance on the adrenal glands for energy.
4. Take other supportive substances for the adrenal glands including Vitamin C, Magnesium, etc. such as those listed in James Wilson's book on Adrenal Fatigue.
5. Give the adrenal treatment time to work. For example, it may take 2 or more years for the adrenal glands to recover.
6. Avoid stimulants - which increase norepinephrine - which worsens the stress to the adrenal glands.

Thank for this good answer.

5. Give the adrenal treatment time to work. For example, it may take 2 or more years for the adrenal glands to recover

May be sometime adrenal fatigue is for life. After four year's of hydrocortisone (between 20 at 30 mg) I stop medication without enough problem depiste a mental fog. But after 3 week without hydrocortisone, I begin to have many symptoms of adrenal fatigue, I've just taking 20 mg of hydro and one hour after I feel good.

I'm not sure that many people who have "adrenal fatigue" become normal again without hydrocortisone. I try many time to stop, but I'm never come back like before. Aging doesn't help too.

3. Adequately improve thyroid activity to improve the brain's source of energy - thus reducing reliance on the adrenal glands for energy

My little experience with my hypothyroidism said that many people need to take more T4 between 200 mcg to 300 mcg with a little bite of T3. To much T3 kill your adrenal. To much armour for me is bad too because my ratio T3/ T4 is too high. I feel better with higher dosage of synthetic T4 with some armour.
Some physician said that only high T4 is good if you want more T3 in the brain. T3 alone is doesn't help the brain. I've reading the book of Dr love about fibromyalgia and he said that high dose of T3 is OK for the brain, but many specialist like Bauer said NO. Another physician Wilson said too much T4 is bad because it's increase T3 reverse and make a brain in hypothyrodism. There are many theories and it's not easy to understand what the best way to improve brain thyroid fonction when you read all of this theories.
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