Hypopituitary Good News.

[pmgamer18]

I just got back from seeing my Dr. and he is boning up on what he needs to do to test and treat me for Hypopituitary.

I have been taking some supplements to help my Adrenals and taking my Temp and charting it.

In the last 2 weeks my Temp avarge has come up from 97.2 to 98.4.

And I am feeling a little better yesterday was a dam good day.

The following are the new tests I had done.

Total T is why up from last test so we are lowing my dose of HCG from 350 IU's to 250.
Total T was 1236 now it is up higher 1359 range 262 to 1593 ng/dl.

Free T was 39.1 now lower at 33.5 range 8.8 to 27 pg/ml

Estradiol is down from 25 to 15 a little to low for me range 13 to 54 pg/ml

My morning Cortisol is up from 8 to 11.5 range 7.0 to 25.0 ug/dl so this looks good it came up some.
I told my Dr. I was taking supplements to for Adrenal Fatigue and he told me to get some Isocort and start with one table a day until my next test.

My Thyroid tests are as follows.
TSH is 2.939 up from 1.915 range uIU/mL
Free T4 0.91 not done last test range 0.71 to 2.23 ng/dl
Free T3 2.32 down from 2.50 range 1.5 to 3.5 pm/ml

Fasting Glucose 65 range 65 to 140 mg/dl maybe this is why I feel like crap in the morning.
Fasting Insulin 13.9 range 11.4 to 29.1 uIU/mL this looks low also.
Tests not back yet are.
IGF-1
DHT
Total E's
Aldosterone
Rennin Activity
Phil

[magic8989]

I am glad to see things are getting better for ya. Are you starting to feel a lot better yet?

I just got some info from the doc as well. I am going in tommorow to get a copy of the results.

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by magic8989

I am glad to see things are getting better for ya. Are you starting to feel a lot better yet?

I just got some info from the doc as well. I am going in tommorow to get a copy of the results.

You know I am feeling a little better it is slow but getting there. I only feel like crap in the morning by 1pm I start feeling better. I think the Isocort will help a lot. Looks like I will need to take it for life. I hope my Thryroid's Free T4 comes up on the Isocort. As my cortisol levels come up Dr. feels my thyroid will get better. I think he liked the Idea of taking my Temp and charting it.

[Andromeda]

PMGamer,
The 'progressive' dr I started seeing in early 2005 got me to chart temps, and recommended the wilson book re: adrenal fatigue - along with getting me on T3/hyrdocortisone. It has helped, but he doesnt seem to know anything about progesterone and its impact on libido/sexual function... and this I think is my barrier in making further progress.
Apparently the higher your body temp the more your enzymes start working and of course this then determines your energy production, neurochemistry and hormone production... I guess it explains the 'like an xxx on heat' term...

Just had a followup visit recently and tried to get (1) an MRI or CT scan (2) nolvadex to get rid of the bitch tits but he said he can only give nolvodex in cases of breast cancer! and that he must justify the MRI wiht blood tests ... :/

Still, good to hear its working for you - esp after all your past experiences. Just out of interest - what were ure LH, FSH, ACTH on a fasting morning test before any supplementations/treatment?



Cheers

[Vforcer2]

Phil,
How is Hypopituitary diagnosed differently from Adrenal Fatigue? How do you know for a fact it is the Pituitary?

[pmgamer18]

My LH and FSH have been shut down for yrs. on TRT as for the ACTH test not yet my Dr. says that my pituitary is dam slow and we know this so most of the problems one has with this I have. My past tests show this low DHEA, T, IGF-1, Thyroid is not that great, cortisol and sugar. Then going on HCG after being on TRT for 22 yrs and being told I am Primary my T levels doubled. This was the clue that I am Hypopituitary. My Dr. is going to be doing more test next month.

As for using progesterone Dr. John feels men need to stay away from it. Just this morning one of the members at the H2 group posted this about it.

Progesterone is the hormone I now consider to be the most insidious
and the one that must be used with the most caution. It is highly
lipophilic (fat loving) and transdermal progesterone can build up in
the tissues and hang around for a very long time ---- blocking
estrogen. It makes for depression, illness, blood sugar problems,
and even hair loss. www.rhythmicliving.com has the list of symptoms
and the stories there. If you know women using the over the counter
progesterone rather than estrogen I wouldn't be surprised if they
were having health problems after it starts to build up in the fat
base and organs.

Originally Posted by Andromeda

PMGamer,
The 'progressive' dr I started seeing in early 2005 got me to chart temps, and recommended the wilson book re: adrenal fatigue - along with getting me on T3/hyrdocortisone. It has helped, but he doesnt seem to know anything about progesterone and its impact on libido/sexual function... and this I think is my barrier in making further progress.
Apparently the higher your body temp the more your enzymes start working and of course this then determines your energy production, neurochemistry and hormone production... I guess it explains the 'like an xxx on heat' term...

Just had a followup visit recently and tried to get (1) an MRI or CT scan (2) nolvadex to get rid of the bitch tits but he said he can only give nolvodex in cases of breast cancer! and that he must justify the MRI wiht blood tests ... :/

Still, good to hear its working for you - esp after all your past experiences. Just out of interest - what were ure LH, FSH, ACTH on a fasting morning test before any supplementations/treatment?



Cheers

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Vforcer2

Phil,
How is Hypopituitary diagnosed differently from Adrenal Fatigue? How do you know for a fact it is the Pituitary?

Frist if your secondary meaning your testis work but the pituitary is not sending the messages to tell them to work. An MRI did not show I have any tumors. In 1980 I have a bad auto accident with a head injury. Most of the things that the Pituitary does I am low on. For 22 yrs I was told I am primary my testis don't work but last yr. adding HCG to my T shots my levels doubled and my testis do work. So what else can it be my Dr. now feels that the head injury is the cause of this.

[Normandy]

Originally Posted by pmgamer18

As for using progesterone Dr. John feels men need to stay away from it. Just this morning one of the members at the H2 group posted this about it.

Progesterone is the hormone I now consider to be the most insidious
and the one that must be used with the most caution. It is highly
lipophilic (fat loving) and transdermal progesterone can build up in
the tissues and hang around for a very long time ---- blocking
estrogen. It makes for depression, illness, blood sugar problems,
and even hair loss. www.rhythmicliving.com has the list of symptoms
and the stories there. If you know women using the over the counter
progesterone rather than estrogen I wouldn't be surprised if they
were having health problems after it starts to build up in the fat
base and organs.

I wonder why Dr.Shippen encouraged women to add progesterone, compounded in a cream along with estradiol HRT. I remember reading it a few months ago in The Testosterone Syndrome. It has been 10 years or so since he wrote it, though.



-- Normandy

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Normandy

I wonder why Dr.Shippen encouraged women to add progesterone, compounded in a cream along with estradiol HRT. I remember reading it a few months ago in The Testosterone Syndrome. It has been 10 years or so since he wrote it, though.



-- Normandy

I do think the book is dated and a lot has changed. He was down on shots and now gives him self shots. He does them subQ every 3 days. Doing half the does in one side and the other in the other side. Also we need to take this stuff we read with an open mind what is not good today is the best thing going tomorrow.

[Normandy]

Btw Phil, we're all rooting for you!








-- Normandy

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Normandy

Btw Phil, we're all rooting for you!








-- Normandy

Hey Thanks you guys are great.

[pmgamer18]

Bump to 1cc can you give me some input on this last test.