novarel or app

[benrock]

i have been using app for about 2 weeks at 200iu per day and dont feel anything kinda depressed , i just got a shipment of novarel today is it that much better then app or what ?

also it says im onlt but i am doing subq is this ok


thanks

[rick055]

sub-q is fine.

Your response will vary to different brands.

I notice no difference between Novarel and Abraxis, but some SWEAR by Novarel.

[zkt]

Originally Posted by rick055

sub-q is fine.

Your response will vary to different brands.

I notice no difference between Novarel and Abraxis, but some SWEAR by Novarel.

Beg to differ. Hope you dont think I`m splitting hairs. But
there is no objective difference between brands of hcg any more than there is a difference in brands of asprin. Drugs are run thru quantative and qualitative testing to insure youre getting what youre supposed to get. Subjectively there may be a difference if you believe there is. Placebo effect and all that.

[cpeil2]

Originally Posted by zkt

Beg to differ. Hope you dont think I`m splitting hairs. But
there is no objective difference between brands of hcg any more than there is a difference in brands of asprin. Drugs are run thru quantative and qualitative testing to insure youre getting what youre supposed to get. Subjectively there may be a difference if you believe there is. Placebo effect and all that.

I don't see how they could be different either, but this idea that Novarel is the best brand of hCG out there is a notion that will not die. It makes no sense to me, but I half believe that there is something to it.

[zkt]

People believe some strange shit. And sometimes in the face of clear evidence to the contrary. The current political administration being a case in point. Still to this day I occasionally meet someone who is convinced that Sadam was behind 9-11. But this is probably a case of indoctrination from watching too much media based news and not really the same thing. I cant explain it either.

[benrock]

the brand is app which is american applied pharmichuticals , and it had an exp date of 06 would that make it less effective ?

[zkt]

Possibly. Drugs are usually considered still potent for a year after the expiration date. But two years- its a guess. I`m used some drugs that were 4 years past to good effect. Stored properly, probably alrite. But the supplier shouldnt be sending you out of date stock anyway.
Get some of the other stuff and do a double blind experiment and settle the mattter once and for all.

[cpeil2]

Originally Posted by benrock

the brand is app which is american applied pharmichuticals , and it had an exp date of 06 would that make it less effective ?

Well yeah - it's two years past its expiration date- - biologicals are fragile molecules.

[rick055]

Originally Posted by zkt

Beg to differ. Hope you dont think I`m splitting hairs. But
there is no objective difference between brands of hcg any more than there is a difference in brands of asprin.

Not splitting hairs and I agree.

My post says I saw no difference between the two brands, but others swear by Novarel.

That said, sometimes there are differences between generics and branded. Look at Wellbutrin SR. There was a minor difference in the binders and the sustained release pattern was a bit different. Messed some people up.

I don't see how this could be possible in HCG, because AFAIK it's a one ingredient deal.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by rick055

Not splitting hairs and I agree.

My post says I saw no difference between the two brands, but others swear by Novarel.

That said, sometimes there are differences between generics and branded. Look at Wellbutrin SR. There was a minor difference in the binders and the sustained release pattern was a bit different. Messed some people up.

I don't see how this could be possible in HCG, because AFAIK it's a one ingredient deal.

Wonder is that is true.
Novarel uses Bacteriostatic water
but
some other use sodium chloride as a dilutant.

I also have other brands.
Looking at one, it contains additional one substance added on top of main (hcg)
the other have 3 additional substances listed.

They are all somewhat different.

[rick055]

Originally Posted by JanSz

Wonder is that is true.
Novarel uses Bacteriostatic water
but
some other use sodium chloride as a dilutant.

I also have other brands.
Looking at one, it contains additional one substance added on top of main (hcg)
the other have 3 additional substances listed.

They are all somewhat different.

Interesting. Do you mind listing the brads and different ingredients? Are they all inert? Wonder if there is a preservation issue.

[benrock]

also if anyone has a hard time getting novarel there is a pharmacy in newyork city , just fax script and the overnight it to you next day , kings pharmacy look it up also have compounding test gel

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by rick055

Interesting. Do you mind listing the brads and different ingredients? Are they all inert? Wonder if there is a preservation issue.

Novarel
Chorionic Gonadothropin 10000USP units
Mannitol 100mg
Dibasic sodium phosphate 16mg
Monobasic sodium phosphate 4mg
----
bacteriostatic water containing 0.9% benzyl alcohol
==========================================
Abraxis
Chorionic Gonadothropin 10000USP units
Mannitol 100mg
----
Benzyl alcohol 0.9%
Water for injection qs
Hydrochloric acid and/or sodium hydroxide
==========================================
HuCoG
Chorionic Gonadothropin
Mannitol I. P.
Dextran 40
----
Sodium Chloride Injection IP
==========================================
Pubergen
Chorionic Gonadothropin
Mannitol I. P.
potassium dihydrogen orthophosphate
dipotasium hydrogen orthophosphate
-----
Sodium Chloride Injection
===========================================

[benrock]

well all i know is i was on the app for 10 days and nothing , one day of the novarel and i have had a on /off wood all day and feeling good so it works for me

thansk

[Shootist]

Maybe they were actually right about when that stuff expires.