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In Eugene Shippen's book "The Testosteorne Syndrome," Shippen claims he claims secondary hypogonadism is the more common form of hypogonadism in middle aged men. Then in a chart in the book, he lists some of the causes of primary versus secondary hypogonadism. One of the many causes of secondary hypogonadism he lists is obesity. Simply put, being fat can make you produce less testosterone and even become hypogonadal.

I wonder if anyone has ever just gone on a diet, done a lot of exercise and lost a lot of weight...and watched their T levels increase as a result?

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In Eugene Shippen's book "The Testosteorne Syndrome," Shippen claims he claims secondary hypogonadism is the more common form of hypogonadism in middle aged men. Then in a chart in the book, he lists some of the causes of primary versus secondary hypogonadism. One of the many causes of secondary hypogonadism he lists is obesity. Simply put, being fat can make you produce less testosterone and even become hypogonadal.

I wonder if anyone has ever just gone on a diet, done a lot of exercise and lost a lot of weight...and watched their T levels increase as a result?

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when I worked with Dr. Karlis Ullis, he insisted on diet and exercise logs before prescribing drugs. Actually, he wanted positive lifestyle as a baseline. And yes, being fat can relate to secondary hypogonadism. For those who have struggled life long with obesity, "the horse may be out of the barn" regarding hypogonadism. It's a clinical question of whether the hypogondism is reversible--testing is always there. When you look around this forum you will find some outstanding examples of guys who restart after TRT. Obesity can bring more than one hormone imbalance. Testosterone may help to energize a person.
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In Eugene Shippen's book "The Testosteorne Syndrome," Shippen claims he claims secondary hypogonadism is the more common form of hypogonadism in middle aged men. Then in a chart in the book, he lists some of the causes of primary versus secondary hypogonadism. One of the many causes of secondary hypogonadism he lists is obesity. Simply put, being fat can make you produce less testosterone and even become hypogonadal.

I wonder if anyone has ever just gone on a diet, done a lot of exercise and lost a lot of weight...and watched their T levels increase as a result?

Fred
I did

I started taking supplements, working out, lost weight

T went from

490 to 731
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I did

I started taking supplements, working out, lost weight

T went from

490 to 731
Were you already taking testosterone when you started out at 490? Because to me, 490 is not low T.

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All my signs point to me having secondary hypogonadism, and I'm a muscled stick. 6'1" 150 pounds

I can't shake either of these problems (yet.., but working on it!):
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All my signs point to me having secondary hypogonadism, and I'm a muscled stick. 6'1" 150 pounds

I can't shake either of these problems (yet.., but working on it!):
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I hear ya...but Shippen lists like 15 or 16 things that can cause secondary low T and "massive obesity" is just one of the things listed. Im 79 lbs overweight...I consider that massive obesity.

Then again, when I was just 55 lbs overweight in 2003, I was initially diagnosed with low T. So who knows.

But without a doubt, being fat cant be good for testosterone.

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I hear ya...but Shippen lists like 15 or 16 things that can cause secondary low T and "massive obesity" is just one of the things listed. Im 79 lbs overweight...I consider that massive obesity.

Then again, when I was just 55 lbs overweight in 2003, I was initially diagnosed with low T. So who knows.

But without a doubt, being fat cant be good for testosterone.

Fred
yeah, that's true

we got the opposite mechanisms busted up somehow Maybe we can trade a bit, and then we'll both end up in the middle? I can tell you that once I burned off a slight beer belly, that quite a few symptoms went away, or maybe it happened at the same time. I know while being hypothyroid I'm not supposed to work out, but I swear I get better each time I burn a lot of calories. I believe hypothyroidism and even secondary hypogonadism is different in males than females.

i.e :
-females should rest, very often and most of the time, not work out
-males when afflicted by any disease, should pump up, work out and boost that testosterone to help heal

?

I should buy that shippen book, sounds pretty good.
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