Prohormones and TRT

[gymrat1977]

I'm about to start my bottle of ErgoMax and I plan on seeing SWALE. Will this affect my test results? I didn't think about it until after the bottle got here and now I need check before starting it.

[BigRagu]

if it's a prohormone and your going to get a blood test..... u bet your life it's going to mess with the blood test...............don't take it

[Sonny]

Definitely don't take them!

You will either:

1) Raise your Test levels to the point that you will not qualify for HRT. Just because you see Swale doesn't mean he'll prescribe HRT.

2) You may get HRT, but the HRT will have erroneous baseline lab work. That will slow down your progress long term.

3) You may raise your Estrogen levels (Prohormones are known for this) and end up looking like you need an aromatase inhibitor when in reality, you don't.

My 2 cents...

Sonny

[gymrat1977]

Damnit...I was looking forward to taking the ErgoMax. I would like to get SWALE's opinion. Now i'm stuck with this bottle. You two just ruined my day.
Thanks for the reply.

[Millard Baker]

Originally Posted by gymrat1977

I'm about to start my bottle of ErgoMax and I plan on seeing SWALE. Will this affect my test results? I didn't think about it until after the bottle got here and now I need check before starting it.

Ergomax is somewhat suppressive to HPTA. It is not a prohormone or prosteroid, but a pheromone. The effects of pheromones are mediated via the androgen receptor. So, it have some negative feedback but no more than oxandrolone.

Keep in mind, that doctors want to try to control all variables when optimizing TRT protocols. If you are taking over-the-counter supplements that affect your estrogen, testosterone levels and/or HPTA, then this may make their job more difficult. This includes things like 6-oxo, formestane, and ergomax. At the very least, be sure to tell your doctor about these supplements - he should be aware of their affects on hormone levels and advise accordingly.

[gymrat1977]

Thanks, i'll keep that in mind. Hopefully SWALE will see this thread and comment. Especially since I will be seeing him in the future.

[freedomfighter]

If you wish to rid yourself of the temptation to take the Ergomax I'll gladly relieve you of the bottle for a reasonable price.

[Kroms_laugh]

Originally Posted by freedomfighter

If you wish to rid yourself of the temptation to take the Ergomax I'll gladly relieve you of the bottle for a reasonable price.

ROFL! Excellent timing, bro.

threadstarter,
Definately stay away from anything that may alter your hormone levels if you plan on being treated for a hormone deficiency!

-Kroms

[SWALE]

Good advice, all.

And thanks, Admin, I did not know that.

Yes, it is hard enough to get my guys tuned up as it is, PLEASE do not cloud the picture even more!

[gymrat1977]

I appreciate the advice from everyone. I'm not sure how soon that i'll be able to see SWALE. Saying that, if I used Ergomax now how long would I have to wait until my blood work would be normal?

[buck]

Depending on how long you use them , how much you use etc it could take up to several months I would guess. I have never seenany studies about this topic.

[gymrat1977]

30 days @ 20mgs

[SWALE]

I'm sorry, I have no experience with this product, so cannot be of assistance here.

[gymrat1977]

Originally Posted by SWALE

I'm sorry, I have no experience with this product, so cannot be of assistance here.

I'm hopefully going to set up something within the next month so i'll just play it safe and sell the product.