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Old 07-08-2007, 10:25 AM
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i was for about 8-9 months on Gels(Testim only 2 /day) and shots on 125mg/day with hCG,while on shots 600 I.U. 2 times/week and while on gels 750 I.U. 3 times a week and all of these with some arimidex..
When i was on gels my total T was between 800-900 range 270-1100,when was on shots T was between 1100-1400.Estradiol was 15-30 the most ,both gels and shots.On gells i was 4 months and same on shots.
At May decided to restart my HPTA.so i started running 40mg of Nolvadex /day. After two moths while on the same dosage of Nolva here is my results.Had taken morning without taking the first pill of 20mg of Nolva.

Total Testosterone 523 range 270-1100
FSH 2.3 range 2.3 range 1.1-13.3
LH 6.6 range 1.4-9.2

Mine conclusion is that look promising that if i respond to Nolvadex i have hope to restart.
I am considering also when i was on shots my T was going above normal and possibly after the hCG injection and the T injection.even higher.My thought is to continue at this dosage on Nolvadex.Think that i was on T medications 8-9 months. Also when I wasn't, before TRT i mean, T,LH,FSH was very low for a couple of years a reason for an atrofied pituitary and possibly with Nolva could get in on work.
What do you think guys?It is important not to make mistakes any more.
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:26 PM
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Come on guys,why no response?
.I thought that you pay attention on guys who want to restart or are on the restart process.
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zumper, how did you get on with HRT in general? Your figures looked good (and high) to get decent function.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:49 PM
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Your results are looking quite promising for a restart. Your pituitary and nuts are capable of producing LH & Test. After being shut down for extended periods of time, it can take quite a long time for your levels to come up. I've been on it for about 8mths now (although I am only on 10mg for the last 6mths) and my last results a few mths back were about 600. I'll be restesting again this week. I noticed that over time my levels have increased every month or so - even though I am taking the same amount of novla. I've just started treating adrenals & thyroid - so that should hopefully also bring my levels up higher.

40mg is a very high dose, I would recommend that you drop to 20mg and run that for about 2-4 weeks, before dropping down to about 10mg. Then continue to run this for a few months, or as long as you are happy to.

Novladex (tamoxifen) has a half life of 5-7 days, so even not taking it the morning of your test it would be still in your system - helping to keep your LH levels high. I believe the trick with novla for restarting is to run a low dose for a long period, and when you finally wish to stop it, taper off it very slowly, so as to not shock the HPTA
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Come on guys anyone else?I cannot fucking beleive i have no replies.too disappointing for this forum,i didn't expect that though :
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why would you want to restart?

Didn't feel better on TRT????
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Come on guys anyone else?I cannot fucking beleive i have no replies.too disappointing for this forum,i didn't expect that though :

Unfortunately most of the top responders have left here due to a few whiney characters ruining the board. Hopefully some of the top guys will come back again...
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LH is way up so looks like your responding.
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Come on guys anyone else?I cannot fucking beleive i have no replies.too disappointing for this forum,i didn't expect that though :
Afte you are done with Nolva and Clomid and still disappointed,
take a break for a month
for the next three months do daily subq shots
HCH 100iu
HMG 75iu

when you are done, wait two months then get tested
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
Testosterone Total (included in T panel)
Testosterone Free(included in T panel)
Testosterone Bioavailable(included in T panel)
SHBG(included in T panel)
Albumin, serum(included in T panel)
Dihydrotestosterone DHT

If your FreeT is less than 160
get over it
start Depo-T shots (for life)
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Afte you are done with Nolva and Clomid and still disappointed,
take a break for a month
for the next three months do daily subq shots
HCH 100iu
HMG 75iu

when you are done, wait two months then get tested
Testosterone, Free, Bio/Total (LC/MS/MS)
Testosterone Total (included in T panel)
Testosterone Free(included in T panel)
Testosterone Bioavailable(included in T panel)
SHBG(included in T panel)
Albumin, serum(included in T panel)
Dihydrotestosterone DHT

If your FreeT is less than 160
get over it
start Depo-T shots (for life)
But HCG isn't for restart (to bring LH,FSH back) just to avoid the shrinkage of testicles and produce some natural Testosterone.
Consider I am secondary.
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THANKS for the replies guys,greatly appreciated ,if you have any other ideas give some help.

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But HCG isn't for restart (to bring LH,FSH back) just to avoid the shrinkage of testicles and produce some natural Testosterone.
Consider I am secondary.
Not everybody have this opinion.

On topic of restart I got this from Primordial Performance.
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/536457-post31.html

You may want to gets some more details from him.
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