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Old 12-12-2007, 07:20 PM
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Post Results of my neurotransmitter and adrenal test (horrible)

No wonder I am so fucking depressed all the time.


Test Results Range


Inhibitory Neurotransmitters

Serotonin --------------------- 62.6 ----------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Gaba --------------------------- 344.8 -------------------------------- 550-750 mcg/g


Excitatory Neurotransmitters


Dopamine --------------------- 100.4 -------------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Nor-epinephrine ---------------- 32.7 --------------------------------- 20-45 mcg/g

Epinephrine ----------------------- 3.6 ----------------------------------- 3-20 mcg/g

Glutamate -------------------------- 5.7 ----------------------------------- 15 -35 mcg/g


Adrenal Adaptation Index


Norepi/Epi ration -------------------- 9.1---------------------------------------<10nM

Adrenal Hormones


Cortisol (8 am)------------------------- 1.8--------------------------------------- 13-24 nM
Cortisol (12:30 pm) -------------------- 24--------------------------------------- 5-8 nM
Cortisol (6 pm) ------------------------ 5.4--------------------------------------- 4-7 nM
Cortisol (1:45 am) ------------------------ 13 --------------------------------- 1-3 nM

DHEA-s (8 am) ---------------------------- 1.4------------------------------------ 2-10 ng/ml
DHEA-s (6 pm) ---------------------------- 1.3------------------------------------- 2-10 ng/ml

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Default Re: Results of my neurotransmitter and adrenal test (horrible)

So now what here is a link on Adrenels that will help you.
Stop The Thyroid Madness » ADRENALS FAQ–the most frequently asked questions
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No wonder I am so fucking depressed all the time.


Test Results Range


Inhibitory Neurotransmitters

Serotonin --------------------- 62.6 ----------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Gaba --------------------------- 344.8 -------------------------------- 550-750 mcg/g


Excitatory Neurotransmitters


Dopamine --------------------- 100.4 -------------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Nor-epinephrine ---------------- 32.7 --------------------------------- 20-45 mcg/g

Epinephrine ----------------------- 3.6 ----------------------------------- 3-20 mcg/g

Glutamate -------------------------- 5.7 ----------------------------------- 15 -35 mcg/g


Adrenal Adaptation Index


Norepi/Epi ration -------------------- 9.1---------------------------------------<10nM

Adrenal Hormones


Cortisol (8 am)------------------------- 1.8--------------------------------------- 13-24 nM
Cortisol (12:30 pm) -------------------- 24--------------------------------------- 5-8 nM
Cortisol (6 pm) ------------------------ 5.4--------------------------------------- 4-7 nM
Cortisol (1:45 am) ------------------------ 13 --------------------------------- 1-3 nM

DHEA-s (8 am) ---------------------------- 1.4------------------------------------ 2-10 ng/ml
DHEA-s (6 pm) ---------------------------- 1.3------------------------------------- 2-10 ng/ml
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Default Mail order tests = garbage???

I have never seen anyone on this forum post a set of mail order test results that
looked anywhere near normal. So either everyone on here has big medical problems
or the tests are just a bunch of crap designed to sell suppliments.

It would be interesting for someone that did not mind spending the money to:
a) send the same sample to several different labs and see if the results are consistant
b) take samples at the same times on different days and send them to the same lab
under different names to see if the results were at all consistant.
c) send in multiple samples taken at the same times to the same lab but fill out the
survey differently, for example on one say that you are depressed and on another say
anxious etc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Skeptic View Post
No wonder I am so fucking depressed all the time.


Test Results Range


Inhibitory Neurotransmitters

Serotonin --------------------- 62.6 ----------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Gaba --------------------------- 344.8 -------------------------------- 550-750 mcg/g


Excitatory Neurotransmitters


Dopamine --------------------- 100.4 -------------------------------- 150-300 mcg/g

Nor-epinephrine ---------------- 32.7 --------------------------------- 20-45 mcg/g

Epinephrine ----------------------- 3.6 ----------------------------------- 3-20 mcg/g

Glutamate -------------------------- 5.7 ----------------------------------- 15 -35 mcg/g


Adrenal Adaptation Index


Norepi/Epi ration -------------------- 9.1---------------------------------------<10nM

Adrenal Hormones


Cortisol (8 am)------------------------- 1.8--------------------------------------- 13-24 nM
Cortisol (12:30 pm) -------------------- 24--------------------------------------- 5-8 nM
Cortisol (6 pm) ------------------------ 5.4--------------------------------------- 4-7 nM
Cortisol (1:45 am) ------------------------ 13 --------------------------------- 1-3 nM

DHEA-s (8 am) ---------------------------- 1.4------------------------------------ 2-10 ng/ml
DHEA-s (6 pm) ---------------------------- 1.3------------------------------------- 2-10 ng/ml
You have got some numbers,
now everyone is going to give you conflicting advice of what to do.

Genova Diagnostics test Metabolic Analysis and Cellular Energy contains neurotransmitters analysis as one of its part.
But;
you get advice within report of what to do as corrective action, name and daily dose.
You can buy the stuff anywhere,
you are not subjected to conflicting or vague advice.

I had this test done, report is as attachment to that post.

JanSz-Metabolic Analysis and Cellular Energy
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If you like my way, rather than the test I did, I would do their NutraEval now:
GDX NutrEval Profile

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Default Re: Results of my neurotransmitter and adrenal test (horrible)

Fix those adrenals and thyroid fast. They are probably the cause or at least exasperating the rest of the neurotransmitter problems. SInce almost everything else is so low, your thyroid is probably crawling along as well.
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Default Re: Results of my neurotransmitter and adrenal test (horrible)

Your rhythm is 4-6 hours ahead -- i.e. your high cortisol should be the morning. The overal adrenal base is not bad. Your diurnal variation also isnt so bad. But your DHEA does suggest that your are challenged adrenally. Things will likely get a lot worse if untreated. I would imagine that your sleep is being disrupted by that early morning cortisol rush. I can sympathize with that. Adrenal therapy should balance that. Good luck.
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