Self Directed TRT week 3 report

[zkt]

Its been about 6 months since I got interested in TRT and 3 weeks on Te 125mg(.5ml)/week IM.
The njections have beena pain in the ass, or rather leg (quads). Althought the actual stick isnt all that painful, the idea of sticking a needle in my leg still dont sit well with me. The after pain is much worse. The first week it started the day after and lasted all week. I mean the dragging your leg kind. The second week the injection was absolutely painless and the post injection pain started the next day and was gone by the next. The third was somewhere in the middle. Wonder whats responsible for the variation ?
Phcycal effects
Pretty damn good ! Frequency is up from every couple weeks to twice a week as is ejaculations.
Enjoyment is up a lot too.
Needless to say mood is better.
General energy level is up. But not to the point of jumping out of bed in the morning ready to kick the worlds ass as it was at age 35 (and lower).
Breathing is improved ( a bit of emphysema form smoking too much too long) and severe exercise induced asthma. FEV1 has improved from the low 200`s to 225-230 even after cutting the inhaled corticosteroid in half. This is as expected due to the anti-imflaamatory properties of T. The need for albuterol (short acting Beta2 agonist) is about a third to a half.
Dont know the effects on cholesterol or the actual T and E2 levels yet. Might increase the T a bit and test the whole thing in a month. And start selegiline in a couple weeks as well.
Interestinly enough, the month prior to strting T injections, I did the Dermacrine treatment. I experienced these same effects but to a little lesser degree. The ass kicking mood was even a little better ! The only way I can explain that was its effect on the estrogens. But its a guess.
Lastly, toying with the idea of getting my wife off Estratest, which is methyl testosterone and estradiol and fine tuning her with much cheaper generic estradiol and transdermal T. I would epect a female to be a better subject for development of a transdermal T system since they are much more sensitive to it. Probably could use her libido as an indicator of efffectiveness.

[The_Skeptic]

What size needles you using?

[zkt]

25-1 to fill and shoot. too small for the fill

[plymouth city]

"Interestinly enough, the month prior to strting T injections, I did the Dermacrine treatment. I experienced these same effects but to a little lesser degree. The ass kicking mood was even a little better ! The only way I can explain that was its effect on the estrogens. But its a guess"

Thats very interesting! Im gonna start on some dermacrine products as well - Im giving the brand new sustain, a more potent version, a trial run. I will be trying dermacrine as well later/

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by zkt

25-1 to fill and shoot. too small for the fill

Lately I've been using 23-1.5 to fill, then switch the needle to 27-1.5 and it makes a big difference.

[zkt]

Originally Posted by plymouth city

"Interestinly enough, the month prior to strting T injections, I did the Dermacrine treatment. I experienced these same effects but to a little lesser degree. The ass kicking mood was even a little better ! The only way I can explain that was its effect on the estrogens. But its a guess"

Thats very interesting! Im gonna start on some dermacrine products as well - Im giving the brand new sustain, a more potent version, a trial run. I will be trying dermacrine as well later/

Sounds good. My initial thoughts on Dermacrine was that it was snake oil. And I didnt really expect anything out of it and was surprised to actually feel some effects. Are you going to post your before and after labs (T, E2) ?

[plymouth city]

sure am

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

Lately I've been using 23-1.5 to fill, then switch the needle to 27-1.5 and it makes a big difference.

It takes 3 minutest to get the test in but it is worth for me.
I do SubQ around navel, E3D, two shots one day (T+HCG), two shots free days in between.
I rub the spot a lot. No pain, no stinging, nothing unpleasant.

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[zkt]

Good deal I`ll change to 23-1.5 to fill, then switch the needle to 27-1.5
Isnt is really hard to get the T thru a 31g or is that only for hcg ?

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by zkt

Good deal I`ll change to 23-1.5 to fill, then switch the needle to 27-1.5
Isnt is really hard to get the T thru a 31g or is that only for hcg ?

I use the above described 31ga for both, T & HCG shots.
Waiting 3 minutes for the syringe to fill up with Depo-T oil is worth for me.
I do SubQ around navel plus I rub a lot after the shot, no pain, no soreness, nothing.