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Initially, at least, it is interfering with my sleep. If that doesn't clear up pretty quickly, I don't know whether I would think it was worth continuing.
This is probably, at least in part, due to a rise in androgenic hormones that sermorelin can cause. Once that pituitary starts cranking up due to serm, expect to see increases in T and other androgenic hormones, I suspect(this is hypothetical, but my friend and I are in agreeance with this)

I would suspect that you will stabilize once you get used to it.
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This is probably, at least in part, due to a rise in androgenic hormones that sermorelin can cause. Once that pituitary starts cranking up due to serm, expect to see increases in T and other androgenic hormones, I suspect(this is hypothetical, but my friend and I are in agreeance with this)

I would suspect that you will stabilize once you get used to it.
Oh, I can use the extra androgen. T from my last Rhein panel was less than 25.
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Oh, I can use the extra androgen. T from my last Rhein panel was less than 25.
Yes. Your body is starting to change, and a wouldn't doubt that a flush of androgens are flooding in. Expect things to be a little wacky for the next week or two.

Why are you not addressing the low T
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Yes. Your body is starting to change, and a wouldn't doubt that a flush of androgens are flooding in. Expect things to be a little wacky for the next week or two.

Why are you not addressing the low T

Drives my BP up and triggers a whole host of inflammatory symptoms.
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Drives my BP up and triggers a whole host of inflammatory symptoms.
Did you use injects or creams?

I wonder if your have a slight allergy or something that is in the testosterone(either the oil used) or the cream(one of the compouding products).............Hmmmmmmmm

Did you run this by your Dr? What did he think........
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Did you use injects or creams?

I wonder if your have a slight allergy or something that is in the testosterone(either the oil used) or the cream(one of the compouding products).............Hmmmmmmmm

Did you run this by your Dr? What did he think........


I've tried it all - don't tolerate any of it well. Doc doesn't have a solid answer. He said it is possibly an allergy to benzyl alcohol.
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I've tried it all - don't tolerate any of it well. Doc doesn't have a solid answer. He said it is possibly an allergy to benzyl alcohol.
Thats EXACTLY what I was hypothesizing......The inflammatory reaction with increases in BP screams an allergy to me.

Hang tight, androxal and then SARMS are in your future.
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Default One Week On Sermorelin

I have been using sermorelin for exactily one week now.

The standard dose of 200 mcg interfered with my sleep and made me kind of jumpy and impatient, so I cut back to 100 mcg. Still had sleep problems and difficulty maintaining focus working so I cut the dose to 50mcg and changed injection time to AM rather than bedtime.

I don't have any difficulty tolerating the 50 mcg dose. I only see the 50 mcg dose as a temporary thing. In another few days, I will try to ramp up to a higher dose.
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Any updates Doc or cpeil?
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Any updates Doc or cpeil?

just waiting for the results of labs right now.
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Any updates Doc or cpeil?

I stopped it after a week. The full 200 mcg was pretty stimulating, as I noted above. Cut the dose in half and it was still too stimulating. Cut the dose in half yet again - to 50 mcg - and it still disturbed my sleep - although during the day it had the opposite effect - I was so sleepy I had a tough time working. I was going away for a few days and didn't want to deal with the sleep disturbance and the daytime sleepiness, so I stopped using it. Haven't gone back to it yet - probably won't.
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I stopped it after a week. The full 200 mcg was pretty stimulating, as I noted above. Cut the dose in half and it was still too stimulating. Cut the dose in half yet again - to 50 mcg - and it still disturbed my sleep - although during the day it had the opposite effect - I was so sleepy I had a tough time working. I was going away for a few days and didn't want to deal with the sleep disturbance and the daytime sleepiness, so I stopped using it. Haven't gone back to it yet - probably won't.
Interesting.

My friend had no issues w/ sleeping - In fact he said he slept better.

Do you normally sleep sound?

Do you take any other medications at night?
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just waiting for the results of labs right now.
Awesome

Any issues w/ sleep?

Noticed anything positive/negative in respects to comparing it to GH injects - since you have done both

Thanks Doc
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Interesting.

My friend had no issues w/ sleeping - In fact he said he slept better.

Do you normally sleep sound?

Do you take any other medications at night?

Dr. John said that most of his patients are reporting improved sleep.
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Dr. John said that most of his patients are reporting improved sleep.
Dam cpeil, aren't you the bearer of bad luck or what

I guess in your case you can't wait for SARM's to hit the market.

How do you react to straight GH injects
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