Sub-q injection gone wrong...

[Sonny]

This is the 7th time I've given myself a sub-q injection and until today, I had no troubles. I was in a hurry this morning and I guess it bit me!

Are you supposed to aspirate with a sub-q injection?

I never had up until this point, but I will in the future! This injection was done with a 27g x 5/8" needle. I'm pretty sure I hit a vein because as soon as I pulled the needle out, I got a fair amount of blood. That has never happened before. I squeezed the fold of skin between my fingers and then inserted the needle there. This injection was closer to my belly button than the others. I always insert the needle nice and slow...same as how I do the Test Cyp injection in the glute.


Thanks,
Sonny

[freedomfighter]

Nasty bruise there. You don't aspirate sub-q's. Not too many veins around the belly button. But it does sound like you hit one. Weird, I did hundreds of sub-q's with no bleeding. A couple of bruises but no blood.

[SWALE]

For God's sake, Man, go to a 30 or 31ga for SC injections. A 27ga. is practically a trocar for those!

[Sonny]

I'll get some smaller ones. The 27's are what the pharmacist gave me. I guess after seeing them next to 23g that I use for the Test Cyp, they seemed tiny!

Here's the needle next to the 18g mixing needle for HCG that I was given. Seeing that 18g made my hands sweat!



Sonny

[freedomfighter]

27g is pretty small. I found that 31g's bent when I tried to inject(thick skin?).

[greatgro]

Is Subcutaneous the only way to inject HcG? It can't be injected intramuscularly?

What's this folding skin on your stomach stuff....Sounds scary...

[Phreezer]

lol.. Actually according to most HCG manufacturers IM is the suggested method of administration due to Absorbtion times..

WRT to folding the skin.. All that means is he pinched a little bit of fat around his belly button and injected into the pinched skin.. that's it..nothing scary.

[jboldman]

phreezer is correct, there is no practical difference in sub q or im injections. I always do mine im, just find it easier.

jb

[Kroms_laugh]

Originally Posted by Sonny

I'll get some smaller ones. The 27's are what the pharmacist gave me. I guess after seeing them next to 23g that I use for the Test Cyp, they seemed tiny!

Here's the needle next to the 18g mixing needle for HCG that I was given. Seeing that 18g made my hands sweat!



Sonny

There is a pharmacutical company in South Africa that makes Deca-Durabolin preloads with 18g NEEDLES! I think to advertise that only horses have the balls to take such things! LOL

[1cc]

Originally Posted by jboldman

phreezer is correct, there is no practical difference in sub q or im injections. I always do mine im, just find it easier.

jb

I have been injecting my HCG SubQ normally half way down my thigh, where the skin is a little thinner. I recently started injecting the HCG SubQ higher up my thigh where there is more fatty skin. I have noticed that there seems to be a different effect. When I injected the old way, I would immediately feel the effect of the HCG and my testes would swell up pretty quick. Now with the new way it looks like the absorption of the HCG is much slower because I do not feel the effect immediately, and also my testes do not swell up as much. Also, once the effect kicks in it seems to last much longer, even later into the evening (feeling stimulated before bed) because of the slower absorption.

I have read the insert for the HCG and it says that injection should be IM. My question is, is there any reason to want a slower absorption from SubQ, or does one want the immediate full effect of the HCG on the testes.

Found this interesting study:
http://www.sculptedbyiron.com/forum/...6&postcount=10

[wildfox]

Originally Posted by 1cc

I have been injecting my HCG SubQ normally half way down my thigh, where the skin is a little thinner. I recently started injecting the HCG SubQ higher up my thigh where there is more fatty skin.

The difference could be because of how close you were getting to the great saphenous vein returning from the lower leg to the torso before.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference.../figure?id=581

I'm curious to know exactly where you were injecting before as well as now.

Hopefully the attached photo is visible. It is the front (anterior) view of the right thigh, in 8 sections. Assuming the sections are as follows relative to the photo, which area where you injecting before and now?

1 2
3 4
5 6
7 8

[1cc]

Wildfox,

My usual injection site is the upper part of 3, which is medium fatty. I then decided to look for more fatty skin in the middle part of 1, which I found caused a very delayed release ( I tried this twice). Today I decided to go for very thin skin to see what an immediate release would feel like and I injected in the upper part of 5. I felt an almost instantaneous release, felt a little nauseas, felt an immediate swell in the testes.

The question is, which is the right way? Do we want a delayed release or an immediate release?

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by 1cc

I have been injecting my HCG SubQ normally half way down my thigh, where the skin is a little thinner. I recently started injecting the HCG SubQ higher up my thigh where there is more fatty skin. I have noticed that there seems to be a different effect. When I injected the old way, I would immediately feel the effect of the HCG and my testes would swell up pretty quick. Now with the new way it looks like the absorption of the HCG is much slower because I do not feel the effect immediately, and also my testes do not swell up as much. Also, once the effect kicks in it seems to last much longer, even later into the evening (feeling stimulated before bed) because of the slower absorption.

I have read the insert for the HCG and it says that injection should be IM. My question is, is there any reason to want a slower absorption from SubQ, or does one want the immediate full effect of the HCG on the testes.

Found this interesting study:
http://www.sculptedbyiron.com/forum/...6&postcount=10

I think that those using it for HRT would want slower absorption but those using to recover from AAS or to stimulate the testes during a cycle,would want the faster affects.

[jawbone]

all my sub qs are in my gastrocs-- just easier for me

[MANWHORE]

Originally Posted by jawbone

all my sub qs are in my gastrocs-- just easier for me

gastrocs? LOL