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I have seen some threads where people thought about using hcg only. For about a month I have been taking 300 hcg twice weeklyfollowing two months on 100/week test cypionate and 100 to 200 weekly over prior six months with a 3 week pct.. I don't have good baselines before the start but had one reading 18 months ago at about 400 and a second 12 months ago at the bottom of range. Didn't have great erections or morning wood. I'm 50. The test fixed that but I started getting fairly rapid hair loss (male pattern) so I'm trying to cut down or off if I can to get better baselines. I need to figure out whether I really need this in which case I'll just have to get used to being a balding male
At any rate, I'm now on 300 hcg twice weekly with .5 arimidex also twice weekly. Until I get tested, can anyone tell me what range of test I might expect from my current hcg intake? Also, is it likely that I need this much arimidex or any at all? Should hcg use be higher? I have never had any gyno symptoms even on the test and feel pretty normal now and everything functions well although libido is not what it was on the test.
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Yowser:

This is a really broad question and because every man is different, you need to take the answers with a grain of salt.

I went from a T Cyp + HCG protocol to an HCG-only protocol for about 4 months during 2004.

I started out at 225 iu per day and was able to achieve Total T and Free T in about the middle of the range. As time went on, I had to keep upping the dose to achieve the same levels. I think I ended up near 300iu per day before I stopped. You can find more results here:

Lots of lab results using Test, Test+HCG, HCG, etc.

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I have seen some threads where people thought about using hcg only. For about a month I have been taking 300 hcg twice weeklyfollowing two months on 100/week test cypionate and 100 to 200 weekly over prior six months with a 3 week pct.. I don't have good baselines before the start but had one reading 18 months ago at about 400 and a second 12 months ago at the bottom of range. Didn't have great erections or morning wood. I'm 50. The test fixed that but I started getting fairly rapid hair loss (male pattern) so I'm trying to cut down or off if I can to get better baselines. I need to figure out whether I really need this in which case I'll just have to get used to being a balding male
At any rate, I'm now on 300 hcg twice weekly with .5 arimidex also twice weekly. Until I get tested, can anyone tell me what range of test I might expect from my current hcg intake? Also, is it likely that I need this much arimidex or any at all? Should hcg use be higher? I have never had any gyno symptoms even on the test and feel pretty normal now and everything functions well although libido is not what it was on the test.
Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
If you are using HCG only then you will have all the T that your body is able to produce.
If your testicles are able to produce T then you are set,
if not then treat HCG supplementation as a way of preventing your testicles from shrinking.
The T that you need need to be externally supplied.
If your testicles are only half way then you situation is in -between.
Blood testing is the guiding light.
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