what do u guys think endo will say?

[billythebaxter]

a few weeks ago i went to see an endo re: low test, he ordered a bucket loads of bloodwork and tomorrow i see him for results...i think my low t is caused my me taking an ssri (paxil)...he seems to think same but ordered tests to rule out other causes...

when i see him tomorrow, if he has assertained paxil is the cause, do u think he will refuse to treat me with trt and tell me to get off the paxil and then go back to him....or is it likely he will treat me with trt anyway?

what do u guys reckon? (he seems like a nice guy)

[Sargovar]

If you reckon he's a nice guy, he'll probably listen to your suggestions. If he's your run of the mill, authoritarian prick of a doctor, he'll do whatever he wants on a whim. Let's hope he fits the former description!

Is going on TRT what you want to do? If it turns out Paxil is really to blame for your low T, you could most likely get good results jumpstarting your own system (hCG, SERMs etc.. I'm far from an expert here, so I'll wait for others to jump in before making any specific treatment suggestions). I always think that getting your own system up and running should be attempted first in secondary hypogonadism.. but that's just me.

[pmgamer18]

Well you need to see what your labs are there is a web site just about this SSRI's.
Here is a link about it.
http://www.mhsanctuary.com/rx/testos.htm
At this web site there are a lot of men and women with low T and bad sex problems they claim are do to SSRI's.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/ssrisex/

[bigjimcalhoun]

I predict your testosterone level will be 230 ng/dL and the endo will tell you that you fine as long as you can get an erection.

I recommend lying and saying that you can't get one. Endos don't seem to be getting this hypogonadism thing.

[love_en]

Originally Posted by bigjimcalhoun

I predict your testosterone level will be 230 ng/dL and the endo will tell you that you fine as long as you can get an erection.

I recommend lying and saying that you can't get one. Endos don't seem to be getting this hypogonadism thing.

The ED thing didn't work for me. The best that self-righteous prick of a doctor who did not learn shit while in medical school could do was offer me Cialis. That is why I have been treating myself for the past two years.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by love_en

The ED thing didn't work for me. The best that self-righteous prick of a doctor who did not learn shit while in medical school could do was offer me Cialis. That is why I have been treating myself for the past two years.

Hey, hey;
At least you doctor was self-righteous prick.

I got exactly same results (script for Cialis and advice to make an effort to forget about sex) from reputable Director of Sex department in hospital in the middle of Manhattan NYC. His name starts Mull....

My blood still boils when I recal about that prick.
I self treat since Jan 04 (succesfully).

[Bridger]

Geez, i guess my endo is out of the ordinary. She is a woman to boot.

Im on a medication, well a few, and one of which comes from a family that is known to cause lower test levels. She didn't even suggest the idea that i should stop taking it and see what happens with my test. On the other hand, i doubt that is the cause of my low test. I'm very confident it came from steroid use in the past. And contrary to popular suggestions i was totally honest with my doc about that. I didn't even get a lecture about it. I got lucky i guess.

Give your endo a chance before you decide to go the TRT route alone.

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by Bridger

Geez, i guess my endo is out of the ordinary. She is a woman to boot.

Im on a medication, well a few, and one of which comes from a family that is known to cause lower test levels. She didn't even suggest the idea that i should stop taking it and see what happens with my test. On the other hand, i doubt that is the cause of my low test. I'm very confident it came from steroid use in the past. And contrary to popular suggestions i was totally honest with my doc about that. I didn't even get a lecture about it. I got lucky i guess.

Give your endo a chance before you decide to go the TRT route alone.

Yep usually after 2nd visit I never return LOL

[love_en]

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

Yep usually after 2nd visit I never return LOL

Damn straight. 1st visit wasted running tests that were not going to be interpreted correctly. 2nd visit wasted being told my hormonal levels are normal and there is nothing to treat. I never went back, all bills, past due notices, etc went in the trash, all phone calls demanding payment ignored, I will pay if and when this endo chooses to treat me correctly for my problems. All that will take is some T cypionate, Armour, Florinef and prednisone. It amazes me that anesthesiologists and obstetricians have the highest malpractice insurance rating. I am waiting for an endo's mistreatment of a hormonally deficient patient to land him in court.

[hardasnails1973]

Originally Posted by love_en

Damn straight. 1st visit wasted running tests that were not going to be interpreted correctly. 2nd visit wasted being told my hormonal levels are normal and there is nothing to treat. I never went back, all bills, past due notices, etc went in the trash, all phone calls demanding payment ignored, I will pay if and when this endo chooses to treat me correctly for my problems. All that will take is some T cypionate, Armour, Florinef and prednisone. It amazes me that anesthesiologists and obstetricians have the highest malpractice insurance rating. I am waiting for an endo's mistreatment of a hormonally deficient patient to land him in court.

Quest did raise the testosterone total to 1100 which is good, but assholes need to bring the bottom en d from 300 upto 500 that would solve alot of problems for sure and make drs wake the fuck up..I beleive by raising it 200 points itcouild save alot of men prostrate problems, ect.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by hardasnails1973

Quest did raise the testosterone total to 1100 which is good, but assholes need to bring the bottom en d from 300 upto 500 that would solve alot of problems for sure and make drs wake the fuck up..I beleive by raising it 200 points itcouild save alot of men prostrate problems, ect.

Eventually will come a day that nobody will look at TotalTest levels,
only FreeT and BAT is what matter.

[love_en]

Folks, be glad that you are not in Hawaii. The lab here has the bottom of the reference range at 198. What needs to happen, is the AACE needs to start emphasising symptoms over reference ranges. That would also help many people who are hypothyroid and adrenal insufficient. Those people look OK on paper, but are sick and miserable every day for the rest of their lives. But if there had to be a diagnosis based on numbers, the values given in that "Total Testosterone By Age" chart is a good number. Reference ranges provided by labs are skewed low because only sick people get blood work drawn.