what do we all think about hcg desensivity

[masterpp]

hey guys, swale advises that 750iu of hcg a week is the max, otherwise one gets desensitised. has anyone had any luck injecting more, and if so was it worth it, and did you notice any problems.

my reason for asking is that primary men, such as myself, release far too much lh and fsh, and yet the testicles still work as hard as they can. its not that they get desensitised, they just dont do a very good job.

[SPE]

Like any other thing in life, it just depends on the individual. While 750 might not be enough for pmgamer, anything over 600/week sends my e2 too high.

[masterpp]

oh i see. however i was more interested in the issue of desensitivity, like if the production gets less efficient if you bombard your testicles with hcg.

[SWALE]

Umm...I do not think I ever actually said that. Everyone is different, but it probably isn't much more than that.

[pmgamer18]

Well I am not desensitised using 500 IU's of HCG 3 times a week with 150 mgs. of Depo T shots every week. But I am having a problem with my E2 it is to high and when the Indolplelx/DIM 120 mgs. does not do the job I take a .5 armidex every 5 day. But I am swinging from to high to too low. In the last 7 days it is bad I can't get the right dose to keep it leveled. I can't take more then one 120 mgs. tablet a day of Indolplex/DIM a day if I do more I get bad headaches and feel sick. I am also using TMG. I have been having a problem with getting my Labs done right new girls at the Dr.'s office and it has been over 14 weeks since my Total E and E2 has been done. One person says it is the lab and the lab says they never got an order for them. So I had to have it checked last Tue. when my labs came back and they were not on them. My Total and Free T were on the test but no Total E or Estradiol. I am on a roller coaster ride here and am going to ask my Dr. to lower the HCG to 250 IU's like Dr. John does and see what happens to my levels. I all ready feel like crap so I feel I don't have anything to lose.

I am going to Vegas next Wed. for 7 days and when I get back I am doing this.

[masterpp]

Originally Posted by SWALE

Umm...I do not think I ever actually said that. Everyone is different, but it probably isn't much more than that.

sorry- didint mean to put words in your mouth. someone previously told me that your treatise says that 250 3 times a week is the most.

appologies if i have mis-quoted you. as a matter of interest, would you say that the same amount of hcg per week should given to primary suffers on trt as secondary sufferers. i would have thourght that primary men on trt would require more hcg?