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Hello everyone, I am 21 years old and have been on TRT for a few months now. I am on 150mg per week. Whenever i was first prescribed the treatment though, i decided to do a steroid cycle and up the dose to 500mg per week for 12 weeks and then slowly move back down to 150mg per week. Well, during the steroid cycle i started to get puffy nipples and hard lumps under my left nipple only. I immediatly started using nolvdex at 50mg per day for a week and then 10 mg per day since then. But now ( i am on 150mg per week) my nipples are really puffy and my left nipple has a hard sensitve lump under it. So I upped my nolva to 25 mg per day, i have been on that dose for about 1 week. Still no help.

I should also mention my doctor doesnt know i am using nolva, i obtained it illegaly. I am not really sure what to do here though. Should i tell my doctor that i am having gyno problems and see if he prescribes letrozole or arimidex? I dont know what to do and i need a quick solution! Thanks for your help!
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Hello everyone, I am 21 years old and have been on TRT for a few months now. I am on 150mg per week. Whenever i was first prescribed the treatment though, i decided to do a steroid cycle and up the dose to 500mg per week for 12 weeks and then slowly move back down to 150mg per week. Well, during the steroid cycle i started to get puffy nipples and hard lumps under my left nipple only. I immediatly started using nolvdex at 50mg per day for a week and then 10 mg per day since then. But now ( i am on 150mg per week) my nipples are really puffy and my left nipple has a hard sensitve lump under it. So I upped my nolva to 25 mg per day, i have been on that dose for about 1 week. Still no help.

I should also mention my doctor doesnt know i am using nolva, i obtained it illegaly. I am not really sure what to do here though. Should i tell my doctor that i am having gyno problems and see if he prescribes letrozole or arimidex? I dont know what to do and i need a quick solution! Thanks for your help!
Yes..I'd tell him and hopefully you've learned a lesson from this. I wouldn't tell him about the cycle but I would let him know you are having gyno issues. If you tell him about the cycle he would probably cut you off as you wouldn't be trusted to do your own therapy.
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yeah, i know it was stupid . What do you think he will suggest though? what have your experiences been with treating gyno on TRT? Will letrozole help this? Or do you think arimadex will do the trick?
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yeah, i know it was stupid . What do you think he will suggest though? what have your experiences been with treating gyno on TRT? Will letrozole help this? Or do you think arimadex will do the trick?

Arimadex should do the trick....
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Originally Posted by so_money
Hello everyone, I am 21 years old and have been on TRT for a few months now. I am on 150mg per week. Whenever i was first prescribed the treatment though, i decided to do a steroid cycle and up the dose to 500mg per week for 12 weeks and then slowly move back down to 150mg per week. Well, during the steroid cycle i started to get puffy nipples and hard lumps under my left nipple only. I immediatly started using nolvdex at 50mg per day for a week and then 10 mg per day since then. But now ( i am on 150mg per week) my nipples are really puffy and my left nipple has a hard sensitve lump under it. So I upped my nolva to 25 mg per day, i have been on that dose for about 1 week. Still no help.

I should also mention my doctor doesnt know i am using nolva, i obtained it illegaly. I am not really sure what to do here though. Should i tell my doctor that i am having gyno problems and see if he prescribes letrozole or arimidex? I dont know what to do and i need a quick solution! Thanks for your help!
Gyno is due to elevated estrogen levels.
Even now you are most likely taking too much T and that is still making your estrogen a problem.
Why dont you do a blood test, see where you are and then go from there.

I suggest:
Do not change anything in your routine for at least a month and then do
blood test at Quest Diagnostics on the day other than when you do T shots
draw blood at Quest
Do the following, (print it and give to your doc so he can copy it to script)
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(Free Bioavailable and Total Testosterone)
Total Estrogens
estrone
Estradiol, sensitive
Estradiol, Bioavailable
Progesterone
Pregnenolone
DHEA Sulfate
prolactin, serum
Hematocrit
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Latter, few times, every 2 months you will repeat
Estradiol, sensitive
(Free Bioavailable and Total Testosterone)
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You will make adjustments in you T dose so you are on top of either FreeT or BioAvailableT, leave the other where it falls.
You will take Arimidex or better LiquiDex. LiquiDex you can easily dose using insuline syringe with cut off needle with a nail clipper. Start with 25 units on syringe every day.
That is 1/4 pill of Arimidex/day. Go from there as per blood test results. Keep your E2~20
LiquiDex - Arimidex 30ml @ 1mg/ml Price: $60.00
http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product...=16135&cat=248
You may want to get Cialis from that place, if you need it, use it twice weekly, so you will be always ready for your girl.
LiquiCia - Cialis 30ml @ 25mg/ml,
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When you are ok with E2, you may still have Estrogen problem, use the first blood test to guide you but most likely you can start right away with
2 tabs daily, TMG
500 mg, 180 tablets
Item Catalog Number: 359
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00359.html

2 pills (I used up to six),
Dual-Action Cruciferous Vegetable Extract With Resveratrol & Cat's Claw
60 vegetarian capsules
Item Catalog Number: 969
http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00969.html
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When you get your E2~20 (10-30) your gyno should stop beig itchy, possibly it may get smaller.
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If your testicles are shrunk and you do not like that, use
HCG, Novarel, 250IU/every other day, (that may reduce dose of Testosterone if you testis are still working.
Consider splitting your weekly dose of testosterone and do it either twice weekly or every thee days.
If you are using 200mg/1mL testosterone and want to use 120mg/week but do it every three days, you calculate as follows:
120/7*3=51.43mg
51.43/200=0.257mL
that is
26 units on insulin syringe
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If you have a problem with your doctor writting scripts you can buy scripts from LEF.org
Their scripts have to go to LabCorp.
LabCorp's test for testosterone sucks I will give you work around if you have to use them.
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Good luck.

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yeah, i know it was stupid . What do you think he will suggest though? what have your experiences been with treating gyno on TRT? Will letrozole help this? Or do you think arimadex will do the trick?
Talk to your doctor. Letro can lower e2 and other estrogens to an unsafe level.
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