winstrol and hairloss

[masterpp]

hey guys, a lot of people i have spoken to in the gym have suggested winstrol to loose the bloat i have gained on trt.

i was wondering what people thought about doing a short course of this- like three weeks of 50mg a week

also does anyone know how hard it is on the hair, as obviouly propecia wont effect it

ta

[Andrew Androgen]

C'mon man, this is not the fucking steroid forum. Sometimes I wonder if you're just trying piss people off here!

[role model]

I can see your having bad side effects from TRT.
Winny has Overall lower levels of circulating estrogen. Winny is also quite effective at promoting strength because it binds very well at the androgen receptor. Short term use can promote quick strength, a feat often employed early in a cycle or late in a cutting cycle to prevent a decrease in performance. Winny can be hard on the liver so you should not have any liver problems prior to taking. As I told you a month ago I would start with EQ first because its less toxic. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catsteroids.htm

[role model]

Originally Posted by Andrew Androgen

C'mon man, this is not the fucking steroid forum. Sometimes I wonder if you're just trying piss people off here!

I think hes just to lazy to do any research on his own because all answers to his questions are readily available on the internet. Masterpp did you ever here of google?

[masterpp]

Originally Posted by role model

I think hes just to lazy to do any research on his own because all answers to his questions are readily available on the internet. Masterpp did you ever here of google?

ok guys no need for the flame- a lot of this stuff may seem really obviouse to you, but there is so much crap out there on the internet (a lot of good stuff also, but its hard to tell between them), and i much prefere to hear from peoples first hand experience. some of the guys on this site, including yourself, are very experienced in these areas and can get to the point and offer a far broader and more balanced overview than i would be able to figure out for myself.

re the use of winstrol- well i know its not typically used for trt, and i was trying to find out why not. as you have probably gathered trt isn't going so great for me. My hair is thinning, and i feel like a bloated, tired old man. so i am trying to figure out a way of working things out, and i was just wondering why people didnt use winstrol or tren for trt when it seemed fairly beneficial- as it doesnt convert to e2 or dht, which seems to be the stem of my problems.

Sorry to get ratty, but it really isnt out of laziness that i am asking all these questions- i really value your opinions.

[Andrew Androgen]

Winstrol is considered by many to be the harshest oral steroid on the hair. It is also frequently reported that winstrol screws up the joints & tendons in a bad way. It's not exactly the drug you're looking for.

[role model]

Masterpp you asked "wondering why people didn't use winstrol or tren for trt" First of all its not test, Winny and Tren are not test. They are also much harsher. All this information is on the web site I posted on my last post. Please read it all and educate yourself.

[role model]

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Default Re: Sudden Weight Gain starting TRT??????
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For many men, improving testosterone levels from hypogonadal levels can improve energy and reduce weight.

However, other men can have problems such as weight gain. It may depend on the dose and the effects of testosterone on other hormones.

For example, rather than increase thyroid hormone production, some men on testosterone replacement have a reduction in thyroid hormone. This can cause weight gain by reduction one's metabolic rate.

Excessive amounts of testosterone may also do the opposite of what is expected. For example, it may excessively slow down adrenal function or result in insulin resistance. This may result in weight gain. Testosterone acts like a governor of adrenal function. When stress raises adrenal production, testosterone reduces it back to normal like a stretched rubber band contracting back to normal size. This limits the stress response to a transient rather than permanent response. However, too much testosterone makes it hard to have an appropriate stress response, and suboptimal adrenal function may result. This can cause transient suboptimal blood sugars in response to stress or suboptimal rises in metabolism in response to stress. High testosterone doses can result in high DHT levels, which can increase hair loss abdominal fat and insulin resistance - which promotes weight gain.

[masterpp]

as a follow up to our last discussion, would deca be a better option, as i hear it doesnt convert to dht or e2.

would it be a plausible option

[role model]

Originally Posted by masterpp

as a follow up to our last discussion, would deca be a better option, as i hear it doesnt convert to dht or e2.

would it be a plausible option

An option to test? Test is test, deca is not test, If you have low test levels deca is not an option, I'm sure you've been told this 100 times. And I'm sure you haven't read one darn thing yet as far as educating yourself on these matters, otherwise you wouldn't be asking these stupid questions over and over again for the last 3 months..